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0001849Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Justicepublic2010-05-12 16:092010-05-13 03:45
ReporterJiri Petru 
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PrioritylowSeveritytrivialReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusnewResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.03 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0001849: Tantruming dwarf killed a pet cat, got sentenced for "murder"
DescriptionThe title says it all. It's bordering on the line of feature, but feels buggy enough.

The sentence was 200 or 260 days, I don't recall it precisely. I guess it's one of the following cases:
- The game doesn't make a difference between killing a dwarf and killing a pet. Considering dwarves have [ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE], this seems wrong. Possibly, pets are not treated as animals, but as [ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER].

OR
- The game does make the difference (I'm not sure the sentence for dwarf killing isn't 1000 days or something), but calls even pet-killing a murder. This is confusing.
Steps To Reproduce
Additional InformationIIRC, this bug is as old as the game itself.
TagsIntentional/Expected?
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-05-12 16:09Jiri PetruNew Issue
2010-05-12 16:35Logical2uNote Added: 0006616
2010-05-13 00:56FootkerchiefTag Attached: Intentional?
2010-05-13 03:45Jiri PetruNote Added: 0006631
2010-07-12 12:03FootkerchiefTag RenamedIntentional? => Intentional/Expected?

Notes
(0006616)
Logical2u   
2010-05-12 16:35   
Killing a tame animal counts as murder according to the Dwarf Wiki, from 40d.

Ethic:Kill_Animal probably counts towards WILD animals, and tame animals are counted as civ critters, I think - pets are given names, for example. For example, elves have "Ethic:Kill_animal" as self-defense, which reflects their world-gen/in game behaviour.

You may also have to consider "Ethic:Torture_Animal".

I'm leaning towards "not a bug" but rather "not necessarily intuitive/well described feature". I hope someone more versed in the ethics system will be able to fill any blanks.
(0006631)
Jiri Petru   
2010-05-13 03:45   
Yeah, it might also be the [ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:UNTHINKABLE].

But if it is, it shouldn't be described as a "murder". I'm not necessarily saying the sencence it too high - just that the "muder" is a confusing description.