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0004106Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Tradepublic2011-03-02 05:462017-11-01 15:03
ReporterInfiltrator 
Assigned ToLoci 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionno change required 
Platformamd64OSDebian GNU/LinuxOS Version2.6.37-trunk
Product Version0.31.19 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0004106: Broker becomes Legendary Appraiser but conversation skills don't rise above Dabbling
DescriptionI've had this guy (the guy at the trade depot now) as the broker for six years now, and only he's at legendary appraiser, but dabbling everything else.

Also, possibly related, traders never seem to accept deals except where their profit is at least 50% of the value I'm taking.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3879 [^]
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Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2011-03-02 05:46InfiltratorNew Issue
2011-03-02 05:46InfiltratorIssue Monitored: Infiltrator
2011-03-02 05:47InfiltratorTag Attached: 0.31.19
2011-03-02 05:47InfiltratorTag Attached: skill
2011-03-02 05:47InfiltratorTag Attached: traders
2011-03-02 06:44DwarfuNote Added: 0015668
2011-03-02 06:45DwarfuTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-03-02 06:59InfiltratorNote Added: 0015669
2011-03-02 07:16DwarfuNote Added: 0015670
2011-03-03 04:00InfiltratorNote Added: 0015695
2011-03-03 09:22FootkerchiefSummaryBroker Not Gaining Skill => Broker becomes Legendary Appraiser but conversation skills don't rise above Dabbling
2011-03-03 09:22FootkerchiefTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-03-03 09:22FootkerchiefTag Detached: 0.31.19
2011-03-03 09:22FootkerchiefTag Detached: skill
2011-03-03 09:22FootkerchiefTag Detached: traders
2011-03-03 09:23FootkerchiefTag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2011-03-03 09:28QuietustNote Added: 0015708
2011-03-03 15:23InfiltratorNote Added: 0015721
2017-11-01 15:03LociNote Added: 0036833
2017-11-01 15:03LociStatusnew => resolved
2017-11-01 15:03LociResolutionopen => no change required
2017-11-01 15:03LociAssigned To => Loci

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(0015668)
Dwarfu   
2011-03-02 06:44   
Reminder sent to: Infiltrator

She is not only your broker, but also your record keeper. I'm assuming you mean her conversation skills are only at dabbling, as she has no other labors turned on.

Have you accidentally kept her active at the trade depot? [q] -> [r]

She's been eating and drinking, but it seems she has no time to talk to people between the two jobs as she only has passing acquaintances.

As for the 'seems to accept deals with 50% profit' - can you give a more precise example?
(0015669)
Infiltrator   
2011-03-02 06:59   
Aren't all the skills like negotiator and judge of intent supposed to increase while trading? It never tells me the mood of the traders.

And I mean if I want good of value 1000 urist, I have to give at goods worth at least 1500 urist before they'll accept. I thought that the more you trade, the better deals you can get. Then again, he hasn't gained any negotiator skill, so that could be it.

But having said that, why isn't he gaining any of the other skills despite trading for years?
(0015670)
Dwarfu   
2011-03-02 07:16   
Reminder sent to: Infiltrator

Have you used any utilites? It appears none of your dwarfs have higher than dabbling in any conversation skill.
(0015695)
Infiltrator   
2011-03-03 04:00   
I hadn't noticed that. Though I do try to keep them busy. And no, no utilities, only a graphics set. The ironhand one, I believe.
(0015708)
Quietust   
2011-03-03 09:28   
Keeping dwarves constantly busy (and likely preventing them from organizing parties) means they don't get opportunities to talk to each other and improve their social skills.
(0015721)
Infiltrator   
2011-03-03 15:23   
Well, they're not CONSTANTLY busy; there was a party a while back. But what I don't understand is shouldn't the broker gain those skills from trading?
(0036833)
Loci   
2017-11-01 15:03   
The appraisal skill is gained the first time you open the trade window, but social skills are gained each time you perform a trade. If you trade all of your merchandise in one giant trade your trading dwarf will receive a minimal boost to social skills. If you perform multiple small trades instead your trading dwarf will gain significant social skills.