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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0005084Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Itemspublic2012-02-14 17:162017-11-22 15:32
Reporterbarconis 
Assigned Tolethosor 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionno change required 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.34.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0005084: Jeweler able to cut/encrust all stone as well as gems
DescriptionJeweler shop includes all available stone types, not just gems. When asked to cut sandstone, sandstone items appeared in the cut gem category (e.g. 'cushion sandstone cabochons'). Is this WAI?
Steps To ReproduceBuild a jeweler's workshop on a map with stone. Give it jobs.
Additional Information
TagsIntentional/Expected?
Relationships
has duplicate 0005115resolved Footkerchief Jewelers workshop will cut any stone as a gem. 
has duplicate 0005109resolved Footkerchief Jeweler's workshop allows cutting of non-gem items. 
has duplicate 0005526resolved Dwarfu Jeweler can cut native metal 
related to 0005275new  Jeweler cuts fire clay, but no new name for fire clay gems 
related to 0005527resolved Footkerchief Can make gem windows from cut stone 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2012-02-14 17:16barconisNew Issue
2012-02-14 18:20FootkerchiefNote Added: 0019583
2012-02-14 18:20FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2012-02-14 18:20FootkerchiefResolutionopen => no change required
2012-02-14 18:20FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2012-02-14 20:07barconisNote Added: 0019589
2012-02-14 20:07barconisStatusresolved => needs feedback
2012-02-14 20:07barconisResolutionno change required => reopened
2012-02-14 20:22FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0019583bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0019583#r7340
2012-02-14 20:26FootkerchiefNote Added: 0019591
2012-02-14 20:27FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0019591bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0019591#r7342
2012-02-14 20:27FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0019591bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0019591#r7343
2012-02-15 07:15FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0005115
2012-02-15 07:15FootkerchiefAssigned ToFootkerchief =>
2012-02-15 07:15FootkerchiefStatusneeds feedback => new
2012-02-15 07:15FootkerchiefTag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2012-02-15 07:15FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0005109
2012-02-15 07:16FootkerchiefSticky IssueNo => Yes
2012-02-15 07:17FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: Toady One
2012-02-16 18:04NW_KohakuNote Added: 0019885
2012-02-16 18:04NW_KohakuNote Edited: 0019885bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0019885#r7429
2012-02-17 19:42Pickled TinkNote Added: 0020006
2012-02-19 02:06FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0005275
2012-03-02 17:31DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0005526
2012-03-02 17:31DwarfuIssue Monitored: zombiejustice
2012-03-02 17:32DwarfuRelationship addedrelated to 0005527
2014-10-29 14:26JayJayForceNote Added: 0030789
2014-10-29 17:03FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-10-29 17:03FootkerchiefStatusnew => confirmed
2014-12-24 15:30DetrosNote Added: 0031466
2014-12-24 15:33DetrosIssue Monitored: Detros
2014-12-24 15:57DetrosNote Edited: 0031466bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0031466#r12577
2014-12-24 20:28Larix2Note Added: 0031467
2014-12-24 20:35Larix2Note Edited: 0031467bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0031467#r12579
2014-12-24 20:36Larix2Note Edited: 0031467bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0031467#r12580
2014-12-25 03:49DetrosNote Added: 0031468
2014-12-25 12:05DetrosNote Edited: 0031468bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0031468#r12582
2015-12-10 15:18TalvienoNote Added: 0033747
2016-05-17 17:06lethosorNote Added: 0035212
2016-05-17 17:06lethosorStatusconfirmed => resolved
2016-05-17 17:06lethosorResolutionreopened => no change required
2016-05-17 17:06lethosorAssigned ToFootkerchief => lethosor
2017-11-22 15:32DwarfuSticky IssueYes => No

Notes
(0019583)
Footkerchief   
2012-02-14 18:20   
(edited on: 2012-02-14 20:22)
Yeah, it's intended: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/index.html#2011-06-13 [^]
(0019589)
barconis   
2012-02-14 20:07   
Is there a specific mention of this change anywhere? Your note had bad links referring to crafting/decorating with bone, which had no apparent relation to the topic. My search fu isn't finding a discussion of the subject in the forums, other than mention that cuts were added. I suppose it's another way to use up surplus stone/train jewelers without using actual gems of value...
(0019591)
Footkerchief   
2012-02-14 20:26   
(edited on: 2012-02-14 20:27)
Ugh, that link imploded -- it's fixed now, but here's the relevant text:

"The cabochon rewrite extended to allowing each entity to pick from among the shapes defined in the raws for all of their gem cutting purposes, with different entries for non-precious stones vs. gems (to keep them cabochon'd on rock, we can handle exceptions later)."

If you check entity_default.txt, stone cabochons are explicitly allowed:

    [STONE_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
    [STONE_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
    [STONE_SHAPE:CUSHION_CABOCHON]
    [STONE_SHAPE:RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON]
    [GEM_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
    [GEM_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
    [GEM_SHAPE:CUSHION_CABOCHON]
    [GEM_SHAPE:RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON]
    [GEM_SHAPE:POINT_CUT_GEM]
    [GEM_SHAPE:TABLE_CUT_GEM]
    etc...
(0019885)
NW_Kohaku   
2012-02-16 18:04   
There is a problem with the stones being cut like gems - glazes are considered "stones". This means that I glaze a clay statue with "oval ash glaze cabochons".

See: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=5201 [^]
(0020006)
Pickled Tink   
2012-02-17 19:42   
I have cut sandy clay, clay loam, and fire clay I imported. I then encrusted a bucket with them.

"This is a chestnut bucket. The handle is made from sandy clay. On the item is a image of a cage in fire clay by iteb Lularrith. On the item is a well-designed image of a traction bench in clay loam by iteb Lularrith."

cutting the imported clay left it as "fire clay" or "sandy clay", but it is treated as cut in the menus and lost its imported status.

I sincerely doubt this was intended behaviour.
(0030789)
JayJayForce   
2014-10-29 14:26   
Confirmed for 0.40.14

Was able to cut Sandy Clay and Clay loam. Description did not change after they were cut, but they were placed into gem stockpile.
(0031466)
Detros   
2014-12-24 15:30   
(edited on: 2014-12-24 15:57)
Confirmed in 0.40.21. Save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10313 [^]

I am cutting granite into all those four cabochons and storing them in gem stockpile. Their name and description changed when they have been cut, so it is not like at JayJayForce's place.

I have also managed to encrust some furniture in these cabochons. The description of the final item (<<*mica mechanisms*>>) is a bit weird, though:
"This is a superior quality mica mechanisms. On the item is a image of a cushion cabochon in granite by Onul Morulunal." That's a job for another bug report if there is none such yet.
(0031467)
Larix2   
2014-12-24 20:28   
(edited on: 2014-12-24 20:36)
Cutting of _stones_ is intended, i.e. it is no bug and shouldn't be "confirmed".

I can't see a problem with the item description either, apart from "a image".

I think the issue should be closed or renamed to reflect that the only actual bug remaining is 0005275 - clay can be cut, but gives a no-flavour "clay" gem that can be used for encrusting but has no entry in the gem stockpile. That one has been present since .34.x and exists in .40.22, as well.
(0031468)
Detros   
2014-12-25 03:49   
(edited on: 2014-12-25 12:05)
@Larix2: I was confirming cutting of stones still works so yes, this report can probably be closed. And if only that cut clay lacks the change of description, let's move to that 0005275.

Also, I have thought it should be "a(n) image of SOMETHING MADE FROM cushion cabochon in granite" rather than "a(n) image of cushion cabochon in granite". Or did encrust description change in this way? I have thought it was not like this in 0.34 I used to play?

Edit: Moved this grammar stuff to 0008664.
(0033747)
Talvieno   
2015-12-10 15:18   
This can be closed, right?
(0035212)
lethosor   
2016-05-17 17:06   
PM me or another manager on the forums if this should be reopened.