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0000512Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Stockpilespublic2010-04-05 13:172010-08-10 00:10
ReporterSethwick 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionunable to reproduce 
PlatformPCOSWindows 7OS Version
Product Version0.31.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000512: Dwarfs do not use bins
DescriptionThis has only happened in one fort, others have been fine. I build bins and they go to furniture storage and just sit there. I have lots of stockpiles, some nearly empty, some near full, some totally full, and no bin has been used (besides the full bins I bought from traders). The stockpiles have "maximum bins" equal to the number of tiles in the stockpile, so that's not the cause. Barrels work fine and are used to store food in the regular way.
Steps To Reproduce
Additional Information
Tagsbins, stockpile
Relationships
has duplicate 0000562closed Footkerchief Bins Won't Create 
has duplicate 0001042closed Footkerchief Dwarfs wont use bins 
Attached Files
Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-04-05 13:17SethwickNew Issue
2010-04-05 13:33QloosTag Attached: stockpile
2010-04-05 13:33QloosTag Attached: bins
2010-04-05 13:35FootkerchiefNote Added: 0001194
2010-04-05 13:35FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0001194bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0001194#r377
2010-04-05 21:06FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000562
2010-04-08 00:22SethwickNote Added: 0001972
2010-04-12 07:05LangdonNote Added: 0003037
2010-04-12 09:03FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0001042
2010-04-13 20:29crafty_barnardoIssue Monitored: crafty_barnardo
2010-04-13 20:33crafty_barnardoNote Added: 0003382
2010-04-13 22:58KumquatNote Added: 0003408
2010-04-21 15:11TermyNote Added: 0004511
2010-04-22 06:20ercdvsNote Added: 0004584
2010-04-29 14:52vatekNote Added: 0005707
2010-04-29 19:38vatekNote Edited: 0005707bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0005707#r2110
2010-04-29 19:40vatekNote Edited: 0005707bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0005707#r2111
2010-05-07 03:53Jiri PetruNote Added: 0006346
2010-05-07 03:53Jiri PetruIssue Monitored: Jiri Petru
2010-05-07 10:27FootkerchiefNote Added: 0006363
2010-05-10 16:26Jiri PetruNote Added: 0006517
2010-07-16 09:16DwarfuNote Added: 0010427
2010-07-16 09:16DwarfuIssue Monitored: Dwarfu
2010-07-16 09:23FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-16 09:24FootkerchiefNote Added: 0010429
2010-07-16 16:44SethwickNote Added: 0010454
2010-07-16 17:51FootkerchiefNote Added: 0010456
2010-07-16 17:51FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2010-07-16 17:51FootkerchiefResolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2010-07-16 17:51FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2010-07-16 18:44DwarfuIssue End Monitor: Dwarfu
2010-08-10 00:10DwarfuTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE

Notes
(0001194)
Footkerchief   
2010-04-05 13:35   
Did the bug continue after a save/load? If so, it might be helpful if you upload a save demonstrating the problem. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]
(0001972)
Sethwick   
2010-04-08 00:22   
Here is the save file http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2029 [^]

The glitch may have started occurring in a new fortress. This one, unlike the uploaded one, used bins fine for the first several years. I'll have to see if it's a glitch or dwarfs just haven't placed bins for a while due to business.
(0003037)
Langdon   
2010-04-12 07:05   
Have you at any point gone to the o(r)ders menu and turned off furniture hauling?

I accidentally did so on my current fort, and even if I turned it on later, now my dwarves don't haul bins to my finished goods stockpile (although they do use bins correctly on the stone block stockpile, and the ash/potash/pearlash stockpile)
(0003382)
crafty_barnardo   
2010-04-13 20:33   
I'm having the same problem: lots of empty bins, lots of stuff waiting to be stored. All my stockpiles are set to take bins, and I have dwarves with nothing to do that could hall it. I do have one bin that contains some stuff that came in with the initial expedition (but I'm not sure if the bin itself came with the expedition).
(0003408)
Kumquat   
2010-04-13 22:58   
I noticed that at one point dorfs stopped using wooden bins at a finished goods stockpile which I set to take only rock items (mass-produced rock crafts for trading), but that may be semi-intentional.
(0004511)
Termy   
2010-04-21 15:11   
I too have just had this bug. They started off using bins, then at some point suddenly refused to use them any more. I've checked all the settings, and it persists over saves. The only thing I can think of that caused it was deleting and changing stockpiles - I deleted a finished goods stockpile and later replaced it with a weapons stockpile. I noticed a dorf putting a large gem into an unmoved FG bin on that stockpile much later.
(0004584)
ercdvs   
2010-04-22 06:20   
I can't quite confirm, unless its just specific goods. My dwarf made crafts are stored in bins, as well as cloth, leather, weapons, armor, etc. Even crutches and such end up in finished goods bins.

All my games have been appearing to work properly
(0005707)
vatek   
2010-04-29 14:52   
(edited on: 2010-04-29 19:40)
I can confirm this. I have about a dozen bins in my furniture stockpile and a lot of rock blocks, charcoal and metal bars ready for binning elsewhere in my fortress and my dwarves refuse to use the bins.

EDIT: Found a possible cause, user error. Hit (p) and check the reserved bin setting. Mine was set to 20 by accident, once I reduced it dwarves began using bins as normal.
(0006346)
Jiri Petru   
2010-05-07 03:53   
This is happening to me too. My stockpiles use bins/barrels up to a certain point after that they stop. My food, armor, cloth and crafts stockpiles are currently have this issue. I have a lot of unused bins and barrels sitting in furniture stockpiles, and I made sure no square of a stockpile is inaccessible (as per 0000795).

I can provide a save, if you want me to.
(0006363)
Footkerchief   
2010-05-07 10:27   
Jiri: the save might be helpful. Thanks for clarifying that it's not 0000795.
(0006517)
Jiri Petru   
2010-05-10 16:26   
My save might actually not be that helpful, since I have a post-reclaim fortress that is ridden by reclaim bugs and bogged down by hauling tasks. I can't be certain this is not just a priority issue, and that they wouldn't use bins in the end. But after several game years, I do feel it's a bug.

I wouldn't be suprised though if this was something along the lines of 0000863. I imagine dwarves trying to use a bugged barrel or bin (I have several scattered around the fortress), failing and trying again, thus never proceeding to try a different barrel. Just a wild guess, though.
(0010427)
Dwarfu   
2010-07-16 09:16   
Has anyone seen this issue recently?

This could be a case for "Does not reproduce."
(0010429)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-16 09:24   
Reminder sent to: Sethwick

Sethwick, does your save still have this problem in 31.10?
(0010454)
Sethwick   
2010-07-16 16:44   
It has not happened in 31.10, no.
(0010456)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-16 17:51   
Okay, we'll close it for now, then. Feel free to reopen this (or PM me on the forums) if it shows up again.