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0000532Dwarf FortressCombat -- Generalpublic2010-04-05 15:332014-07-21 16:29
Toady One 
0000532: The fighter skill appears to have a negative affect.
When tesed in the arena, as detailed in this thread:
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=53022.0;topicseen [^]

The fighter skill appears to have either a negative affect or such a small positive affect that even at grandmaster level the results of testing show a negative effect due to randomness.

It could be because the Fighter skill enables a more inefficient combat technique and is therefore unbalanced, or that it is simply broken. Either way it doesnt seem to be working as intended.
Arena testing of any identical creatures/groups, with one having the Fighter skill and one not having it, will usually end up with the non-fighters the victor.
balance, combat, fighter
related to 0000033resolved Toady One Bronze colossus, skeletal creatures, fleshballs, and others are impossible to kill 
Issue History
2010-04-05 15:33HuggzNew Issue
2010-04-05 15:57QloosTag Attached: balance
2010-04-05 15:57QloosTag Attached: fighter
2010-04-08 11:50HuggzTag Attached: combat
2011-04-01 12:59FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000033
2011-04-01 12:59FootkerchiefNote Added: 0016949
2011-04-01 12:59FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-12-09 14:12Logical2uNote Added: 0019094
2011-12-09 14:12Logical2uStatusnew => resolved
2011-12-09 14:12Logical2uResolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2011-12-09 14:12Logical2uAssigned To => Logical2u
2011-12-09 14:12Logical2uTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2014-06-02 19:00FootkerchiefAssigned ToLogical2u => Footkerchief
2014-06-02 19:00FootkerchiefStatusresolved => acknowledged
2014-06-02 19:00FootkerchiefNote Added: 0024796
2014-07-19 08:07thvazNote Added: 0026946
2014-07-19 08:25thvazNote Edited: 0026946bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0026946#r10038
2014-07-21 16:29FootkerchiefNote Added: 0027161
2014-07-21 16:29FootkerchiefStatusacknowledged => resolved
2014-07-21 16:29FootkerchiefFixed in Version => 0.40.01
2014-07-21 16:29FootkerchiefResolutionunable to reproduce => fixed
2014-07-21 16:29FootkerchiefAssigned ToFootkerchief => Toady One

2011-04-01 12:59   
Reminder sent to: Huggz

Does this still hold true in 0.31.25? It would be helpful if you redid your tests.
2011-12-09 14:12   
Resolving as unable to reproduce without further updates.
2014-06-02 19:00   
Reopening due to recent corroboration at 0003778:0024660.
2014-07-19 08:07   
(edited on: 2014-07-19 08:25)
Did various tests in the arena with the following configurations:

Group 1 -12 Human, Talented spearman,Grandmaster Fighter,Skilled Shield and Dogde, no armor, shield and spear.
Group 2-12 Human, Talented spearman,no skill in Fighter,Skilled Shield and Dogde, no armor, shield and spear.

I tested five battles, in all of them group Group 1 won with about half of the fighters remaining. I think Fighter now has a positive influence.

The combat system changed in 0.40.01, so maybe it was fixed?

2014-07-21 16:29   
Thanks for testing!