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0006874Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Noblespublic2014-07-09 14:182014-09-14 09:43
ReporterFishcanfly 
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.40.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.40.09 
Summary0006874: SITE members automatically promoted to entity leader (MONARCH/king/queen)
DescriptionAfter an attack on my fort which is only in it's first year I noticed that one of my dwarves has become the king, I have not fulfilled any of the necessary things for a king to arrive as it is only still in the first year.
Steps To Reproduce
Additional Information
TagsIntentional/Expected?
Relationships
parent of 0007083confirmed Footkerchief Automatic promotion of SITE member to MONARCH causes loss of SITE positions 
has duplicate 0006683resolved Dwarfu Queen part of starting seven 
has duplicate 0007052resolved Dwarfu Architect turned into the queen 
has duplicate 0006877resolved Dwarfu Embarked on a new pocket world, one of my dwarves was the queen 
has duplicate 0007301resolved Dwarfu King appears with no warning 
has duplicate 0007302resolved Dwarfu Dwarf appointed King with no warning 
has duplicate 0007353resolved Footkerchief Dwarf randomly becomes king... in a fort with 14 dwarves 
has duplicate 0007431resolved Footkerchief Dwarf made King in a 16 dwarf fort. 
has duplicate 0007602resolved Dwarfu King 'Arrived' unannounced at some stage towards the end of year one 
has duplicate 0007676resolved Dwarfu Queen with 20 population? 
has duplicate 0007893resolved Knight Otu Embark includes Queen for some reason 
has duplicate 0008037resolved Footkerchief Spontaneous coronation 
Not all the children of this issue are yet resolved or closed.
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2014-07-09 14:18FishcanflyNew Issue
2014-07-09 17:11GentlefoodNote Added: 0025419
2014-07-09 18:35GordonCSANote Added: 0025435
2014-07-09 18:35GordonCSAIssue Monitored: GordonCSA
2014-07-09 23:44SteveTheRedNote Added: 0025493
2014-07-10 05:45GordonCSANote Edited: 0025435bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0025435#r9518
2014-07-11 07:02FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0006683
2014-07-11 11:39DoubaNote Added: 0025810
2014-07-11 15:58DwarfuSummaryRandomly promoted dwarf to a king => SITE members automatically promoted to entity leader (MONARCH/king/queen)
2014-07-11 15:58DwarfuAssigned To => Dwarfu
2014-07-11 15:58DwarfuStatusnew => acknowledged
2014-07-11 15:59DwarfuRelationship addedparent of 0007083
2014-07-11 16:00DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007052
2014-07-11 16:01DwarfuNote Added: 0025868
2014-07-11 16:01DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0006877
2014-07-11 16:03DwarfuRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0006683
2014-07-11 16:03DwarfuTag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2014-07-11 16:04DwarfuSticky IssueNo => Yes
2014-07-14 18:25DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007301
2014-07-14 18:26DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007302
2014-07-14 18:30BouchartNote Added: 0026399
2014-07-15 01:24nekoxmachinaNote Added: 0026439
2014-07-15 02:00thvazNote Added: 0026442
2014-07-15 16:44FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007353
2014-07-15 18:27howechNote Added: 0026571
2014-07-15 20:27LegendsmithNote Added: 0026587
2014-07-15 22:264maskwolfIssue Monitored: 4maskwolf
2014-07-15 23:40HinaichigoNote Added: 0026599
2014-07-16 02:41Larix2Note Added: 0026604
2014-07-16 08:29SirPenguinNote Added: 0026634
2014-07-17 10:39musicmastermshNote Added: 0026762
2014-07-17 16:35FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007431
2014-07-24 08:02DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007602
2014-07-26 06:51Myrkky100Note Added: 0027591
2014-07-27 20:04DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007676
2014-07-28 14:16cwilhelmNote Added: 0027807
2014-07-28 14:40KanddakIssue Monitored: Kanddak
2014-07-28 14:49DwarfuStatusacknowledged => confirmed
2014-08-01 08:30int_uaIssue Monitored: int_ua
2014-08-07 11:02Knight OtuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007893
2014-08-09 16:50SkidNote Added: 0028682
2014-08-14 11:06Toady OneNote Added: 0029033
2014-08-14 11:06Toady OneStatusconfirmed => resolved
2014-08-14 11:06Toady OneFixed in Version => Next Version
2014-08-14 11:06Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2014-08-14 11:06Toady OneAssigned ToDwarfu => Toady One
2014-08-14 11:164maskwolfIssue End Monitor: 4maskwolf
2014-08-14 15:35KanddakIssue End Monitor: Kanddak
2014-08-16 08:00FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0008037
2014-09-14 09:43lethosorSticky IssueYes => No

Notes
(0025419)
Gentlefood   
2014-07-09 17:11   
Have you checked his relationship page? Perhaps he was related to the old King who may have died outside of combat?
(0025435)
GordonCSA   
2014-07-09 18:35   
(edited on: 2014-07-10 05:45)
I had the same thing happen, after about a year my chief medical dwarf randomly became the king. Not sure if I know everywhere to look, but he didn't seem to be related to the old one.

Edit: I don't think mine happened on load, it was about halfway through a longish session after loading my reloading my fort for the second time.
(0025493)
SteveTheRed   
2014-07-09 23:44   
I've had this happen to me too. I didn't notice exactly when it happened, but there was a message about the fortress not having a liaison, or it could have been on load?
(0025810)
Douba   
2014-07-11 11:39   
This also happened to me. From my Legends, it seems that the Mountainhomes were attacked several times and destroyed. This did not however prevent starting a party to settle new lands, and as soon as I arrived, one of my dwarves became king, issued mandates, got angry, so I had to kill him. Next in line was another dwarf, who became the Queen.
So it seems to be a succession issue, and/or it might be an error to be able to start from an extinct Dwarven civilization.
(0025868)
Dwarfu   
2014-07-11 16:01   
Bouchart from 0007052 has this save:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8868 [^]
(0026399)
Bouchart   
2014-07-14 18:30   
I can confirm this still happens in 4003.

Checking the new monarch's relationship page doesn't crash the game, although it might be interesting to note that this particular dwarf doesn't have any relatives at all, despite being set in a world 500 years old.
(0026439)
nekoxmachina   
2014-07-15 01:24   
>Checking the new monarch's relationship page doesn't crash the game, although it might be interesting to note that this particular dwarf doesn't have any relatives at all, despite being set in a world 500 years old.

As I understand, first 7-people squad is randomly generated & won't have any relationships around the world.
As well as 1st & 2nd migration waves.
(0026442)
thvaz   
2014-07-15 02:00   
If the civilization was extinct, this is supposed to happen - your dwarves are rebuilding it and one of them is chosen to be king/queen. I think it is intentional.
(0026571)
howech   
2014-07-15 18:27   
I also have a case of this in 40.03. I have a total of 14 dwarves, and one of them seems to think that he is king. Never seen a king before.
(0026587)
Legendsmith   
2014-07-15 20:27   
Isn't this intentional? If you're the last remaining outpost of a civilisation, you're going to get the king.
(0026599)
Hinaichigo   
2014-07-15 23:40   
Yeah this sounds somewhat intentional to me.
(0026604)
Larix2   
2014-07-16 02:41   
If it's a feature that's supposed to stay, i think it'd be a good idea to give an embark warning when reviving a dead civilisation so you know what you're getting into.
(0026634)
SirPenguin   
2014-07-16 08:29   
In playing around Legends mode, I think that succession in general has a tendency to pick from the "abstracted population" rather than proper historical figures.

In several cases I've seen new royal lines where the monarch is "of unknown parentage", is unmarried with no children, and has just a handful of events (like, becoming farmer or being attacked) before being crowned
(0026762)
musicmastermsh   
2014-07-17 10:39   
Found again in 40.03 - my civ screen shows no other civs at all, though they do exist. link - http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9037 [^]

Expedition leader is about to become queen.
(0027591)
Myrkky100   
2014-07-26 06:51   
Found this in 40.04. Suddenly my clerk turned into a queen in the winter of year 5 (still doing clerical work though).

I took a copy of the game files and had a look at the Legends. Apparently my civilization had only 1 hillock and my site, the hillock got invaded so a random dwarf at my site was promoted. Makes sense but it would be nice to make the choice yourself.
(0027807)
cwilhelm   
2014-07-28 14:16   
Just happened in 40.05 - according to my civ screen, my civ is not extinct. The bigger issue is that this came with no announcment in year one.
(0028682)
Skid   
2014-08-09 16:50   
I also got this bug. My female Chief Medical Dwarf was promoted to "King" without any warning except a missing liaison with the fall caravan.

However, I was still able to assign her to bookkeeper and manager, and all of her civilian labours remained active and modifiable.
(0029033)
Toady One   
2014-08-14 11:06   
This is intentional, but I didn't add the announcement to all of the circumstances. I've tried to catch as many as I could now, with appropriate sentences. I'll also consider an embark warning if it is practical.