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0008605Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Tradepublic2014-12-06 06:012023-03-28 20:40
ReporterLanina 
Assigned Tolethosor 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusacknowledgedResolutionreopened 
PlatformPCOSWindowsOS VersionVista
Product Version0.40.19 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0008605: Merchants not leaving
DescriptionFirst autumn, Dwarven caravan arrives. Everything goes fine. After getting the message that the merchants are leaving, they leave the Trade Depot (with still some of their stuff on it) and walk a short distance. Thereafter, they stop and don't move at all. So I now have a bunch of merchants and their animals just standing on my map without doing anything.

After deconstructing the depot, the traders left, but the items that they had left on the depot are now mine.
Steps To ReproduceStart new game
Build Depot
Trade with Dwarven merchants
Wait
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Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2014-12-06 06:01LaninaNew Issue
2014-12-06 06:09lethosorNote Added: 0031281
2014-12-06 06:09lethosorAssigned To => lethosor
2014-12-06 06:09lethosorStatusnew => needs feedback
2014-12-18 09:26troasNote Added: 0031354
2014-12-18 10:04ptb_ptbNote Added: 0031355
2018-05-08 08:03lethosorNote Added: 0038291
2018-05-08 08:03lethosorStatusneeds feedback => resolved
2018-05-08 08:03lethosorResolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2018-07-21 21:18Toady OneNote Added: 0038625
2018-07-24 19:50lethosorStatusresolved => acknowledged
2018-07-24 19:50lethosorResolutionunable to reproduce => reopened
2018-07-25 02:40PatrikLundellNote Added: 0038627
2019-01-24 08:38FantasticDorfNote Added: 0039149
2023-03-28 20:40TestingDontClickNote Added: 0041371
2023-03-29 04:58TestingDontClickNote Edited: 0041371bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0041371#r16866
2023-04-03 19:25TestingDontClickNote Edited: 0041371bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0041371#r16867
2023-04-03 19:38TestingDontClickNote Edited: 0041371bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0041371#r16868
2023-04-03 20:00TestingDontClickNote Edited: 0041371bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0041371#r16869

Notes
(0031281)
lethosor   
2014-12-06 06:09   
Are you sure that their path isn't blocked? What does "D" display?
(0031354)
troas   
2014-12-18 09:26   
I had this issue as well. I was working on the outer wall while trading, and managed to make the depot inaccessible after they arrived. After removing enough walls to make the depot accessible the merchants departed.
(0031355)
ptb_ptb   
2014-12-18 10:04   
BTW, it is possible to have a depot show up as 'accessible' when there isn't actually a valid path. The wagons need 3 wide, but they also have problems with sharp turns.
(0038291)
lethosor   
2018-05-08 08:03   
Stale, needs a save to reproduce. If someone with this issue in 0.44.10+ can upload a save to http://dffd.bay12games.com/, [^] please PM a manager on the forums to get this report reopened.
(0038625)
Toady One   
2018-07-21 21:18   
theli0ndwarf send me a link to this save from 0.44.12:

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13908 [^]
(0038627)
PatrikLundell   
2018-07-25 02:40   
The merchants in theliOndwarf's save will head for the edge as soon as the trade depot is deconstructed, so the problem can be worked around, although I have no idea WHY the trade depot would lock them in place (observing a merchant with gui/gm-editor indicates it has the trade depot as the idling area and no movement destination before deconstructing the trade depot).
(0039149)
FantasticDorf   
2019-01-24 08:38   
I've had this occur to me, but the objects belonging to the merchant(s) still belongs to them because its only 1/4 of their goods they haven't loaded on/off yet. After stalling in depot crouching on the ground, they overstayed, upon desconstruction they left but the items remain.

Relevant Save - http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14210 [^]

I've had nothing but trouble since building a second and third trade depot previously (deconstructed now relevant to other issue reports linked on main save), I have lot of objects i cannot dump, stockpile, use or interact with in the middle of my depot-area, the best i can do is forbid and hide but this problem is reccurring for me, though the elves i mentioned that also got stuck had the sense to leave when due after messing around never unloading either.
(0041371)
TestingDontClick   
2023-03-28 20:40   
(edited on: 2023-04-03 20:00)
I noticed earlier in this year of the run that one of the visiting dwarven merchants was attacked and scratched by a kea after they had departed the depot but before they left the map edge (or my building for that matter). They have been standing around near the trade depot ever since. I believe this may be a duplicate of this issue. This is occurring in the Steam version of the game.

Relevant save file: https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=16554 [^]

Edit: I can confirm that deconstructing the Trade Depot sends the merchants on their way. The merchants left immediately upon beginning the deconstruction process, resolving the primary issue.

On a further note, I attempted to cancel the deconstruction order to see if I could save the trade status of items on the depot. It did allow me to cancel the deconstruction order, but it quickly cancelled construction with an exception saying that the dwarves were unable to complete the Trade Depot. I may poke at it a bit more to see if I can prevent my theft of the merchant's items, but that is a tangential issue. Thank you for your time and great game!

Edit: It's been brought to my attention that it's likely that no one is looking at this old bug tracker system. You should probably disable public links that allow people to set up new accounts and post updates here if that is the case. No one wants to leave a note that no one will read. I'll migrate my notes to the new tracker system: https://dwarffortress.mantishub.io/view.php?id=8605 [^]