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0009047Dwarf FortressCreaturespublic2015-08-19 13:482015-08-27 12:33
Daris 
 
normalminoralways
newopen 
0.40.24 
 
0009047: Military attacks tame roc
My roc breeding program is not going as well as I anticipated, as my military attacks the rocs. Both the captured/trained rocs and their tame/domesticated hatchling are attacked. Only active military does this - deactivating the squad allows them to live in harmony with the rocs, even if the inactive squad members are doing their individual combat drills.
Tame a roc and pasture it near an active military squad.
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Issue History
2015-08-19 13:48DarisNew Issue
2015-08-19 22:58DarisNote Added: 0032973
2015-08-20 00:10DetrosNote Added: 0032974
2015-08-20 11:38DarisNote Added: 0032978
2015-08-20 11:43DarisNote Edited: 0032978bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0032978#r13271
2015-08-20 15:17DarisNote Added: 0032979
2015-08-26 11:52DarisNote Added: 0033001
2015-08-27 12:33DarisNote Added: 0033003

Notes
(0032973)
Daris   
2015-08-19 22:58   
It's possible that the roc is the one who attacks as soon as it sees active military, and the military then retaliate. I trained a roc for hunting and attached it to the squad leader, and followed it as it went to attend to its new master. It passed twenty dwarves with no incident, but as soon as it spotted the (active) squad leader down the hallway, it turned and bit the head off the nearest dwarf.
(0032974)
Detros   
2015-08-20 00:10   
Maybe with a blinded dwarf in activate military you can make sure roc sees military and attacks first and not vice versa.
(0032978)
Daris   
2015-08-20 11:38   
(edited on: 2015-08-20 11:43)
I have no blind dwarves. Is there a way to create one?

(0032979)
Daris   
2015-08-20 15:17   
A captured/trained dragon displays the same behavior.
(0033001)
Daris   
2015-08-26 11:52   
The rocs also mix it up with human caravan guards.
(0033003)
Daris   
2015-08-27 12:33   
For an experiment, I introduced my military to the magma and pastured one of the rocs outside the fort's entryway. Civilians were passing by all the time, collecting wood and whatnot. Then a unicorn stopped by, and the roc went postal on it. One of the dwarves gave me a cancellation, "interrupted by stray roc" (not interrupted by combat), but the only combat in the log was the roc vs. the unicorn. The roc later returned to the fort and got caught again in the pasture, and did not make an attempt to attack the civilians.

I don't know how to interpret this. It's as though there is incomplete loyalty between the roc and the dwarves, so that the dwarves see the roc as hostile, and vice versa, but only under certain circumstances. If the roc is attacking something, the dwarves view it as hostile even if it is not attacking a member of the fort. Active military and the roc are for some reason always enemies. I thought it would be awesome to have a pack of domesticated megabeasts, but the rocs are far more trouble than they are worth. They are only good for a small trickle of high-value and high-maintenance eggs, and the promise of epic amounts of valuable food in 15 years. The war dogs are more valuable in fortress defense.