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0009153Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Locationspublic2015-12-02 03:582018-01-09 14:00
Reporterthvaz 
Assigned ToLoci 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusacknowledgedResolutionopen 
PlatformPCOSWindowsOS VersionWindows 10
Product Version0.42.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0009153: Without available reading material, citizens idling in library with 'No Job'
DescriptionI had a tavern working with visitors, rooms and drinking zones, and decided to set up a library. After settint it up, most of the citizens hang around at the library doing nothing (No Job) and the tavern is almost empty. I think they are treating it as the old meeting zones. The only people doing something at the library are those I assigned as scholars.
Steps To ReproduceSet up a library.
Additional Information
TagsIntentional/Expected?
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Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2015-12-02 03:58thvazNew Issue
2015-12-02 12:31thvazNote Added: 0033290
2016-01-08 05:48Knight OtuCategoryDwarf Mode -- Idle Behavior => Dwarf Mode -- Locations
2016-01-08 08:43DetrosNote Added: 0034359
2017-12-26 20:17thvazTag Attached: Not a bug
2017-12-26 20:18thvazNote Added: 0037405
2017-12-29 01:47FantasticDorfNote Added: 0037424
2017-12-29 03:29Sarmatian123Note Added: 0037427
2017-12-29 03:30Sarmatian123Note Edited: 0037427bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037427#r15112
2017-12-29 03:31Sarmatian123Note Edited: 0037427bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037427#r15113
2017-12-29 10:134maskwolfIssue Monitored: 4maskwolf
2018-01-09 13:59LociNote Added: 0037575
2018-01-09 13:59LociAssigned To => Loci
2018-01-09 13:59LociStatusnew => acknowledged
2018-01-09 13:59LociSummaryCitizens use libraries as old meeting zones => Without available reading material, citizens idling in library with 'No Job'
2018-01-09 14:00LociTag Detached: Not a bug
2018-01-09 14:00LociTag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2018-04-16 18:15HuntthetrollIssue Monitored: Huntthetroll

Notes
(0033290)
thvaz   
2015-12-02 12:31   
If you get reading material the dwarves will read them, but even then if they are all being used the dwarves will just stay there doing nothing. They should look for something else to do if there isn't reading material available.
(0034359)
Detros   
2016-01-08 08:43   
Locations can be set both from furniture and zones. Maybe visitors like to visit some kind more?

Also, if they came specifically to relax in your library, that's what they are doing.
(0037405)
thvaz   
2017-12-26 20:18   
Please close this. It looks like some dwarves just like to go to the library and look at the bookshelves and relax.
(0037424)
FantasticDorf   
2017-12-29 01:47   
There is no idling activity @Detros for non-assigned dwarves in meeting zones that aren't scholars, so unlike a tavern or a temple where they would always be doing a socializing or praying activity (which doesn't set them to idle) dwarves in the library waiting for books to read are able to idle.

Not a bug in itself, but raises questions to how intensive the other two occupation areas are, especially since they steal dwarves from generic meeting zones & job responsibilities without workarounds &/or are destroyed.
(0037427)
Sarmatian123   
2017-12-29 03:29   
(edited on: 2017-12-29 03:31)
I have those military Dwarves blinking in "u"-menu, when they hit legendary skill level in using their weapon, which is highly confusing, as civilian color scheme is set to avoid militia/professional military. Besides hunter skill, which is in social skills category (ambush?). So my take is at this, that earlier there was a bug/feature there Dwarves too easily and too fast skilled their social skills in meeting zone. So Toady moved Dwarves to idle in tavern, temple and library instead. As those meeting zones are allocated Dwarves do not skill up at all in social skills in those. Unless those are singing, playing instrument or telling stories skills. So this is not a bug, but a new feature fixing an old bug of Dwarves working on their social skills. It makes easier also to have mayor out of chosen broker Dwarf. Trading still skills up those nasty social skills. See? Pick trouble free Dwarves for baron and broker and you never have to deal with production orders ever again. Toady making DF too easy is a bug now? lol
(0037575)
Loci   
2018-01-09 13:59   
Standing around staring at empty shelves is a rather odd activity, and since the location update mostly eliminated 'No Job' idling this behavior might be considered a bug.