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0009286Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Justicepublic2015-12-09 08:472018-08-13 01:01
0009286: Fistfights don't count as crimes
I'm not sure if this is a bug, but I'm going to report it anyways.

Dwarves occasionally start fistfights after arguments, which is fine and intended. However, these fights, unlike tantrums, don't count as crimes and don't appear on the Justice screen. Dwarves tend to get injured, sometimes quite badly. They seem to enjoy it, though.
1. Have dwarves prone to starting fights
2. Wait for them to talk to each other and argue about differing values
3. A fistfight occurs
4. Check the Justice screen, nothing there
has duplicate 0009288resolved Dwarfu Killing with fists does not escalate fights from brawl 
has duplicate 0009990resolved Loci Brawls don't cause reporting of crimes 
related to 0009322new  Death from sudden brawl/loyalty cascade is not reported as a crime 
Issue History
2015-12-09 08:47DaeronNew Issue
2015-12-13 13:41TalvienoNote Added: 0033843
2015-12-13 13:41TalvienoNote Edited: 0033843bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0033843#r13649
2015-12-13 13:57DetrosNote Added: 0033844
2015-12-14 13:45bnrubinIssue Monitored: bnrubin
2015-12-14 18:46FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0009322
2015-12-16 15:43DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0009288
2015-12-16 15:49DwarfuTag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2015-12-24 09:43chaosvoltNote Added: 0034179
2016-01-18 23:37JixijengaIssue Monitored: Jixijenga
2016-03-13 18:57ANormalUsernameNote Added: 0034844
2018-04-16 18:35HuntthetrollIssue Monitored: Huntthetroll
2018-08-05 03:52risusinfNote Added: 0038680
2018-08-05 07:35FantasticDorfNote Added: 0038683
2018-08-05 07:36FantasticDorfNote Edited: 0038683bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0038683#r15726
2018-08-05 12:35LociRelationship addedhas duplicate 0009990
2018-08-05 18:13lethosorNote Edited: 0038683bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0038683#r15731
2018-08-05 18:13lethosorNote Edited: 0038683bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0038683#r15732
2018-08-13 01:01illest503Note Added: 0038715

2015-12-13 13:41   
Can confirm that this happens. I've actually had a couple instances of it.

2015-12-13 13:57   
There are already some other similar reports (like 0009322) so this should get confirmed and linked to them next time manager goes around. Give them bit more time, with the new version there was a <s>cat</s>bugreportsplosion.
2015-12-24 09:43   
Hnnng. Had my first barroom brawl gone awry thanks to this bug, recently.

Now I kinda wish we could inflict dystopian arbitrary punishments at will.
2016-03-13 18:57   
I had this happen in my world. It ended in a death and 9 injuries
2018-08-05 03:52   
2018-08-05 07:35   
(edited on: 2018-08-05 18:13)

I talked about this here, but fistfights have their own set of 'rules', no weapons, and whoever is beaten onto a pulp onto the floor first ends the fight irregardless and left alone by other dwarves.

If this specific interaction of being in a heap on the floor having lost the fight is not logged by the crime screen, then i can imagine its just the justice screen showing its age since it was made before the new fight escalation mechanic was produced.

Also in the linked comment, any creature at all (undead, large predator creature etc.) can start a fistfight with a civilian using paws and wrestling, but always act hostile to a armed or lethal escalation opponent (which are logged properly for justice)

2018-08-13 01:01   
Fistfights shouldn't be illegal IMO!