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0010305Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Generalpublic2017-10-12 20:122017-12-05 14:14
Assigned ToLoci 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionno change required 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.43.05 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0010305: Dwarves won't butcher 'reverted to wild state' crundles.
DescriptionBred some '-trained-' crundles in captivity, let them out after the mother and brood had all 'reverted to wild state'. The dwarves quickly killed them all. As I understand it, the corpses should have been butcherable because they would have been wild animals killed in action. None of the corpses were butcherable.
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Loci (manager)
2017-10-13 14:09

Butchery requires:

1) a usable butcher shop
2) a butcherable corpse "near" the shop
3) an idle citizen with the butchery labor enabled

It's hard to diagnose which condition(s) caused your problem from only a brief text description, but my first guess would be corpse size. Corpses too small to yield butchering returns will not be butchered, and young crundles start out at 1/10 the size of a newborn kitten. Crundles reach max size in 2 years, so you should wait that long to ensure butchering returns.
ucbpaladin (reporter)
2017-10-13 19:10

The size thing seems pretty likely, although I think the same thing happened with the mother crundle, but it's hard to tell now with crundle corpses everywhere...I'll see if I can reproduce.
FantasticDorf (reporter)
2017-10-15 07:54
edited on: 2017-10-17 08:08

*Rightly corrected by OlaupPlayer and edited over my comment that crundles were unbutcherable for being too small*

But some important components of the crundle is unusuable, suggesting that smaller crundles like the OP specifies would be largely exempt from butchery with the largest making 'some' returns at the butcher station.

Crundle horns for instance are 'sometimes' not collectable for mandates and are usually exempt because the butchery station does not collect small relatively sized BP objects from creatures, unless the creature itself is large enough to collect from, like tannable crundle scales issue report within the below link. [^] [^]

OluapPlayer (reporter)
2017-10-16 08:01

That's definitely not true. Fully-sized crundles give you about 4 pieces of meat, fat and bones when butchered. They're twice larger than cats.
ucbpaladin (reporter)
2017-12-04 19:19

Ok, I'm pretty sure this was from tiny, newborn crundles. I don't think I can close this, but I think it's not an issue.
Button (reporter)
2017-12-05 07:20
edited on: 2017-12-05 07:21

Was the mother butcherable, or did you not try?

There is a known issue where tamed animals cannot be butchered unless they are slaughtered, so if the mother was not butcherable this could be related.

Loci (manager)
2017-12-05 14:14

I'm satisfied there's nothing unexplainable here.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2017-10-12 20:12 ucbpaladin New Issue
2017-10-13 14:09 Loci Note Added: 0036788
2017-10-13 14:09 Loci Status new => assigned
2017-10-13 14:09 Loci Assigned To => Loci
2017-10-13 19:10 ucbpaladin Note Added: 0036789
2017-10-15 07:54 FantasticDorf Note Added: 0036792
2017-10-15 07:55 FantasticDorf Note Edited: 0036792 View Revisions
2017-10-16 08:01 OluapPlayer Note Added: 0036796
2017-10-17 08:08 FantasticDorf Note Edited: 0036792 View Revisions
2017-12-04 19:19 ucbpaladin Note Added: 0037226
2017-12-05 07:20 Button Note Added: 0037228
2017-12-05 07:21 Button Note Edited: 0037228 View Revisions
2017-12-05 14:14 Loci Note Added: 0037232
2017-12-05 14:14 Loci Status assigned => resolved
2017-12-05 14:14 Loci Resolution open => no change required

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