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0010645Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Raidspublic2018-03-19 12:512019-02-02 11:08
Reporterthvaz 
Assigned ToLoci 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusacknowledgedResolutionopen 
PlatformPCOSWindowsOS Version10
Product Version0.44.07 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0010645: Dwarves turn hostile againt the player and defend their prison from raid sent to free them
DescriptionAs discussed in http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=169921.msg7713684#msg7713684 [^]

I sent a full squad to raze an enemy goblin pit but the mission failed and 4 out of 10 dwarves were imprisoned.

As soon as I got the mission report I sent another squad, more experienced and equipped, to raze the site & rescue the prisoners.

The raze was a sucess, however the former prisoners fought alongside the goblins and were killed by the squad sent to recover them.

It was too short a period of time for the (adult) dwarves to be indoctrinated by the goblins.
Steps To Reproduce1) Send a squad to raze a goblin site
2) Get them imprisoned
3) Try to rescue them while razing the site with another squad.

I hadnt a close save, but if the situation happens again I will upload one.
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(0037972)
thvaz (reporter)
2018-03-19 12:54

As an addendum: some (or all) of the imprisoned dwarves could be mercenaries. It doesnt the fact it is still a bug behavior.
(0037979)
FantasticDorf (reporter)
2018-03-20 05:54

Goblins have [ETHIC:SLAVERY:PERSONAL_MATTER] generally applied to mean that they condone slavery, and when they typically attack a settlement with a resounding victory they take some of the remaining citizens, displace to markets (dark tower main sites) & instantly apply equal citizenship onto abductees rather than keep them for any period of time in prisons in worldgen.

Im not sure if it is lack of coding in this area, some prisoner themed development goals ( http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev.html [^] ) are candidated that might be able to help apply a solution, such as behaviors for exchanges, captures and ransoms to apply more incentive to hold onto prisoners on both sides of the player's conflict.

'Former slaves' may have been slaves upon capture but often settle on site leading to them defending the site in instances like this.
(0037988)
FantasticDorf (reporter)
2018-03-21 15:25

More evidence from Reddit public domain, wherein a fortress militia commander became the lady of a goblin civilisation (to a counterpart evil dwarf leader? what a pleasantly amusing emergent story) after 'deserting' into civilian populations whilst captured on a raid.

Reddit link : https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/862f6z/so_my_militia_commander_just_betrayed_my_civ_by/ [^]

Imgur Gallery provided from Reddit thread : https://imgur.com/a/4L7V8 [^]
(0039179)
Loci (manager)
2019-02-02 11:08

v0.44.12: A squad was dispatched to seize the enemy site Princemenace. The attack was unsuccessful, and three dwarves were taken prisoner. Subsequent attacks to that site had one of my imprisoned dwarves leading the defense of the site:

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14226 [^]

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2018-03-19 12:51 thvaz New Issue
2018-03-19 12:54 thvaz Note Added: 0037972
2018-03-20 05:54 FantasticDorf Note Added: 0037979
2018-03-21 15:25 FantasticDorf Note Added: 0037988
2019-02-02 11:08 Loci Note Added: 0039179
2019-02-02 11:08 Loci Assigned To => Loci
2019-02-02 11:08 Loci Status new => acknowledged


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