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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0001414Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Eating/Drinkingpublic2010-04-21 18:192010-07-13 05:57
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PlatformOSWindows 7OS Version
Product Version0.31.03 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0001414: Dwarves refuse to use water zones, wells - save included
DescriptionSave - [^]

A random selection of my dwarves are dying from thirst. i have wells set up inside they can easily access and rivers and lakes registered as zones they can drink from outside they can also access but randomly it seems some dwarves don't see any food or water and then die. i have it saved right before some of them dies but i don't know how to send saves
Steps To Reproducei have no idea completely random it seems
Additional Informationlet me know if it may be something i'm just doing wrong.....
Tagsdehydration, water
Attached Files

- Relationships
duplicate of 0001007new Wells become unusable after being used for anything other than drinking 

-  Notes
Naros (reporter)
2010-04-21 18:51
edited on: 2010-04-21 18:53

Is there a caravan at your depot? If so, could be related to [^]

If not, then it's a duplicate of [^]

Is there any way to shorten links?
HTML doesn't work.

Halex (reporter)
2010-04-21 19:55

no carvan at depot and you are correct sorry lol. i didn't know you could search through other people's bugs till after i submitted
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-22 00:37

I don't think 0000008 would be likely to cause that many deaths. Have you created any burrows? When you 'i' over the drinking zones, is the number next to "Water Source" greater than 0?
snow (reporter)
2010-04-22 02:10

dwarves dont like drinking water; maybe they're deciding to go get their ration too late (as they are already grow thirsty or even dehydrated with booze, which they like perfectly well)
Halex (reporter)
2010-04-22 07:32
edited on: 2010-04-22 10:15

yeah footkerchief after the first one died i started making zones out of rivers and lakes and the number on each one was over zero i remember. i also made rooms out of the 5 wells i had inside. and that might be snow i'm not sure if i had any alcohol left or not but after they started dying i thought about that too and sent one to start brewing but then there were no barrels and than more people started dying and than the other ones were throwing tantrums cause of it..... but i still have it saved right before that stuff starts happening maybe i'll try again in a bit. even if there is no alcohol thou, this shouldn't be happening

and you're right i just noticed this isn't a duplicate of the other one. i remember the first dwarf this happened to i saw him thirsty and starving and i disabled all of his jobs. he still died a little while after that

and i created a burrow and added everyone to it before when i got attacked cause i don't know how to send everyone inside in the new version but i deleted it after it was done

Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-22 10:29

Hmm... if the "water source" number on the zones was greater than 0, I don't think it could have been salt water. Could you upload the save, please? Create a zip file containing the save's region folder (in /data/save), and upload the zip file to [^]
Halex (reporter)
2010-04-22 13:57

i'm really sorry :( i was playing again and this time even after 7 people died i got it back to normal more or less and i saved again. i was going to leave a duplicate in case you guys needed it but my game has no data/save. i'm using the gold plated tileset so maybe that changed something? if this save is still of any use do you know where the gold plated tileset puts it's saves? i feel really guilty now D:
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-22 15:27

You... don't have a folder called "save" in the "data" folder? Oh, you're on Windows 7. Did you install DF in Program Files?
Halex (reporter)
2010-04-22 16:58

yep. but i don't see a save folder in there
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-22 18:28

Yeah, installing it in Program Files is the problem. Vista and Windows 7 "protect" Program Files.

Go to C:\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files. You should see a "mirror" of your DF folder there, and it should contain /data/save. Copy /data/save into the real DF folder, and then move the DF folder out of Program Files so that Win 7 will stop being a nuisance.

After that, you should be able to upload the save as explained above.
Halex (reporter)
2010-04-22 19:24
edited on: 2010-04-22 19:30 [^] booyah. sorry again if i made it harder by saving after the event

also if you scroll way back on the announcements you see the last person that died from it. Anais. but maybe she was just overly sad from the other people dying from thirst? i don't know if that's possible but the other ones were grouped together, she died a bit afterwards.

Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-22 21:54

Yeah, I loaded it up and forbade all the booze, and they seem to be drinking from the wells just fine. I removed the walls and they drank from the river. It all seems normal.

If dwarves go insane/melancholy, they usually die of dehydration. Is it possible that the ones who died had all gone insane?
Halex (reporter)
2010-04-23 07:00
edited on: 2010-04-23 07:12

that's only possible for anais. the other ones were all grouped together and i don't think any of them even threw a tantrum before they died and everyone was happy before that. way in the begining there was also one lone dwarf that wouldn't eat or drink who wasn't insane either and eventually died... i'll keep playing and wait for it to happen again if it does i'll put that save so you can see it in action and maybe it's something weird i did....

don't worry i'll keep playing till it happens again >:]

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-21 18:19 Halex New Issue
2010-04-21 18:51 Naros Note Added: 0004529
2010-04-21 18:52 Naros Note Edited: 0004529 View Revisions
2010-04-21 18:53 Naros Note Edited: 0004529 View Revisions
2010-04-21 19:55 Halex Note Added: 0004531
2010-04-21 20:26 Kennel Tag Attached: water
2010-04-21 20:26 Kennel Tag Attached: dehydration
2010-04-22 00:37 Footkerchief Note Added: 0004555
2010-04-22 00:38 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-04-22 02:10 snow Note Added: 0004564
2010-04-22 07:32 Halex Note Added: 0004593
2010-04-22 07:37 Halex Note Edited: 0004593 View Revisions
2010-04-22 07:38 Halex Note Edited: 0004593 View Revisions
2010-04-22 10:15 Halex Note Edited: 0004593 View Revisions
2010-04-22 10:29 Footkerchief Note Added: 0004613
2010-04-22 13:57 Halex Note Added: 0004632
2010-04-22 15:27 Footkerchief Note Added: 0004640
2010-04-22 16:58 Halex Note Added: 0004652
2010-04-22 18:28 Footkerchief Note Added: 0004658
2010-04-22 19:24 Halex Note Added: 0004661
2010-04-22 19:30 Halex Note Edited: 0004661 View Revisions
2010-04-22 21:54 Footkerchief Note Added: 0004674
2010-04-23 07:00 Halex Note Added: 0004707
2010-04-23 07:12 Halex Note Edited: 0004707 View Revisions
2010-04-30 16:40 Logical2u Category Adventure Mode -- Eating/Drinking => Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Eating/Drinking
2010-04-30 16:40 Logical2u Summary Dwarves dying => Dwarves refuse to use water zones, wells - save included
2010-04-30 16:40 Logical2u Description Updated View Revisions
2010-07-13 05:57 Footkerchief Relationship added duplicate of 0001007
2010-07-13 05:57 Footkerchief Status new => resolved
2010-07-13 05:57 Footkerchief Resolution open => duplicate
2010-07-13 05:57 Footkerchief Assigned To => Footkerchief

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