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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0000256Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Itemspublic2010-04-03 02:022010-09-17 22:37
Assigned ToToady One 
Platformx64OSWindows 7OS VersionWindows 7 Pro
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.31.13 
Summary0000256: "Make Rock Short Sword" results in wooden short sword
DescriptionI've set my stonecrafter to constantly make rock short swords, but rather than using the obsidian that's lying around, he's using wood and making practice swords. So far he hasn't made a single obsidian sword, but that might change as wood gets more scarce
Steps To ReproduceAdd the "Make Rock Short Sword" job to the craft shop queue with plenty of wood around.
TagsNo tags attached.
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- Relationships
has duplicate 0000598closedFootkerchief Craftdwarf's Workshop produces Wooden short swords when ordered to produce Rock short swords 
has duplicate 0000724closedFootkerchief "Make rock short sword" produces wooden short sword 
has duplicate 0000859closedFootkerchief obsidian swords cannot be made 
has duplicate 0000947closedFootkerchief Crafting "rock short sword" produces wood short swords 
has duplicate 0002631resolvedLogical2u Cant make rock swords 
has duplicate 0002653resolvedFootkerchief Rock Swords aren't created from obsidian 
has duplicate 0003098resolvedLogical2u When told to make rock short sword, dwarf insead makes wooden training sword. 
related to 0003783confirmedFootkerchief Rock swords can't be used in the arena 
related to 0000073resolvedToady One cannot disable the use of obsidian in the z->stone screen 
related to 0009943acknowledgedDwarfu Producing rock short swords and selecting specific stone results in wooden swords 

-  Notes
Nimrod (reporter)
2010-04-03 02:34

As far as i know obsidian swords use one obsidian stone AND one piece of wood.
(proof: Try to sell one to the elves and see them soil their panties over it)
Steb (reporter)
2010-04-03 03:18

With this bug the reactin uses a sharp stone and a piece of wood, however, the finished product is called after the wood type not the stone type, i.e. "birchen short sword"
Marconius (reporter)
2010-04-09 00:08

I've run into this myself.

Question is, does the "birchen short sword" have the stats of a wooden weapon or an obsidian weapon? Can anyone verify either way?
maanahr (reporter)
2010-04-09 02:07
edited on: 2010-04-09 02:08

I can't really verify, but I used them at the start of a fort once, and they seemed to at least cut up vultures pretty well.

Drone (reporter)
2010-04-09 02:27

It is *meant* to use wood (for the handle and suchlike) so I guess what this means is it's making the wrong type of sword?
Marconius (reporter)
2010-04-09 07:11

The swords are showing up named "birchen short sword" and such.

The question is... are they -actually- wooden swords or is it just a naming error?

As in, maybe they're actually obsidian swords, just called "birchen short sword"?
ronarscorruption (reporter)
2010-04-27 08:07

The real question is why they use an entire tree's worth of wood to make the handle. I coulda made a bed with that.
DoctorZuber (reporter)
2010-04-27 10:12

lol, that is dwarfy, but that's how it always was. one unit of obsidian, one unit of wood. the same one unit of wood can be used to make a bed, just as the same unit of obsidian can be used to make an entire wall section. such is life.
Logical2u (manager)
2010-04-27 10:14

... Well, uh, it's not JUST the handle that's made out of wood.
See: [^]
Essentially the idea is that it's a wooden sword with embedded shards of sharp stone.
Bronzebeard (reporter)
2010-05-17 07:07

^ No... No it's not.
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-05-17 07:12

Care to elaborate?
shibdib (reporter)
2010-07-11 14:25

Problly a mixup in the reaction causing the game to use the wood's name inplace of the stone, but keeping the stones stats
dree12 (reporter)
2010-08-04 10:05

Or intended. It is a wooden short sword, after all. See Logical2u's link.
Quietust (reporter)
2010-08-24 18:36

Have the combat properties of these weapons been properly tested, or are people simply assuming that the fault is solely in the item's name?

In all likelihood, the swords probably *are* made of wood and they're doing more damage than training swords because they have sharp edges (about as sharp as wood gets, anyways), and they're being made of wood instead of obsidian due to the same bug as 0002817 (namely, using the material from the wrong ingredient).
Quietust (reporter)
2010-08-25 08:39

Additionally, due to 0000821/0000823, rock short swords are often made using copper nuggets, silver nuggets, horn silver, gold nuggets, platinum nuggets, native aluminum, or raw adamantine instead of obsidian.
dree12 (reporter)
2010-08-25 12:02

I'm not sure if that's a bug, METAL_TEMPLATE has SHARP for a reason. (native metals should really be the exact same sharp as metals)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-09-06 05:15

This should be fixed up for 0.31.13.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-03 02:02 Dewar New Issue
2010-04-03 02:34 Nimrod Note Added: 0000464
2010-04-03 03:18 Steb Note Added: 0000469
2010-04-06 02:47 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0000598
2010-04-07 10:00 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0000724
2010-04-09 00:08 Marconius Note Added: 0002268
2010-04-09 01:14 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0000859
2010-04-09 02:07 maanahr Note Added: 0002277
2010-04-09 02:08 maanahr Note Edited: 0002277 View Revisions
2010-04-09 02:27 Drone Note Added: 0002281
2010-04-09 07:11 Marconius Note Added: 0002320
2010-04-11 00:24 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0000947
2010-04-27 08:07 ronarscorruption Note Added: 0005337
2010-04-27 10:12 DoctorZuber Note Added: 0005351
2010-04-27 10:14 Logical2u Note Added: 0005352
2010-04-28 14:03 Footkerchief Summary Make Rock Shortsword Uses Wood => "Make Rock Short Sword" results in wooden short sword
2010-04-28 14:04 Footkerchief Category General => Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Items
2010-05-17 07:07 Bronzebeard Note Added: 0006877
2010-05-17 07:12 Footkerchief Note Added: 0006878
2010-07-11 11:33 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0002631
2010-07-11 13:00 Footkerchief Sticky Issue No => Yes
2010-07-11 14:25 shibdib Note Added: 0009960
2010-07-12 08:22 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0002653
2010-08-04 10:05 dree12 Note Added: 0011493
2010-08-24 18:22 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0003098
2010-08-24 18:36 Quietust Note Added: 0012067
2010-08-24 22:47 kuketski Issue Monitored: kuketski
2010-08-25 08:39 Quietust Note Added: 0012080
2010-08-25 12:02 dree12 Note Added: 0012086
2010-09-06 05:15 Toady One Note Added: 0012449
2010-09-06 05:15 Toady One Status new => resolved
2010-09-06 05:15 Toady One Fixed in Version => 0.31.13
2010-09-06 05:15 Toady One Resolution open => fixed
2010-09-06 05:15 Toady One Assigned To => Toady One
2010-09-06 08:21 Dwarfu Sticky Issue Yes => No
2010-09-17 22:37 kuketski Issue End Monitor: kuketski
2010-12-07 07:35 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0003783
2011-04-06 17:16 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0000073
2017-11-22 16:59 Dwarfu Relationship added related to 0009943

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