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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0002831Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Diplomacypublic2010-07-25 11:392010-09-07 04:19
Reporterslink 
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformSDL VersionOSWinXP SP3OS Version
Product Version0.31.12 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.31.13 
Summary0002831: Human/elf diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue
DescriptionFor the first time in 31.x I have gotten diplomats from the Elves and the Humans. I don't know yet what the Elven one had to say because he fairly quickly left unhappy, but the Human one said:

"I am your liaison from the Mountainhomes. Let's discuss your situation."
Tagsdialogue, liason
Attached Files

- Relationships
related to 0001102resolvedToady One Liaisons/diplomats not replaced 
has duplicate 0002848resolvedFootkerchief Human Representative talks like Dwarven Liason 
has duplicate 0003019resolvedDwarfu Human & elf diplomats are from Mountainhomes? 
has duplicate 0003055resolvedDwarfu Everyone claims to be from the Mountainhomes 
has duplicate 0003118resolvedLogical2u Elf liason claims is from the mountainhome. 
has duplicate 0003240resolvedLogical2u Everyone represents the mountainhomes 
has duplicate 0003366resolvedLogical2u Damn dirty elf claims to be my liason from the mountainhomes. 

-  Notes
(0010994)
slink (reporter)
2010-07-25 11:44
edited on: 2010-07-25 11:46

This was followed by the usual comment about how you've carved a nice place out for yourself, then the conversation ended with

"I look forward to our meeting next year. Our fortunes rise and fall together."

Nothing is ever discussed about trade agreements.

Edit: Then he left via the caverns!?

(0010995)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-25 11:45

Are you sure the human liaison was actually from a human civ, and not a human who grew up in the dwarven civ? The fastest way to check might be to backup the save, abandon the fortress and look him/her up in Legends.
(0010996)
slink (reporter)
2010-07-25 11:47

Yes, I am certain. This is from the gamelog.

The human Engraver Nitho Gasinronik from Mong Wisho has arrived.
A human caravan from Mong Wisho has arrived.
(0011027)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-07-25 16:14

Yeah, they should use the regular diplomat script but they are using the dwarf one instead. They aren't trade representatives, so they just do the boring war/peace type stuff (as with the old human diplomat). The trade nobility for humans has not been reconstructed.
(0011085)
furiousfish (reporter)
2010-07-26 09:42

The elf diplomat I got today used the dwarven greeting but then went on to demand I limit my tree-cutting (on a map with no trees), so that part seems to be working.
(0011765)
Volouscheur (reporter)
2010-08-13 12:17

I've experienced the same issue. The human and elf diplomats appear and start the dialogue with the usual dwarven greetings, but then act like you'd expect them to (the elf demands a limit of tree-cutting, the human commented on how it was a "nice little place you've carved out for yourself").
(0012236)
Quietust (reporter)
2010-08-29 15:04

It should be noted that this only occurs for diplomats that arrive at the same time as the caravans - once you get a Baron, the Human civilization will send a real Diplomat (even labeled as a "diplomat" in the arrival announcement rather than with its profession) who will use the correct introduction ("Greetings, noble dwarf. There is much to discuss.") and parting text ("It has been an honor, noble [dwarfname]. I bid you farewell."). Of course, due to 0002892, that diplomat will never come back.
(0012455)
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-09-06 08:46

Reminder sent to: Toady One

I stickied this one, only because you mentioned you'd fix it in this release:

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=62368.msg1430785#msg1430785 [^]

It isn't a major deal, but people (especially new people) are confusing diplomats and liaisons.
(0012465)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-09-07 02:46

This should be handled for 0.31.13.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-07-25 11:39 slink New Issue
2010-07-25 11:44 slink Note Added: 0010994
2010-07-25 11:45 Footkerchief Note Added: 0010995
2010-07-25 11:46 Footkerchief Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-25 11:46 slink Note Edited: 0010994 View Revisions
2010-07-25 11:47 slink Note Added: 0010996
2010-07-25 11:52 Footkerchief Summary All Liaisons from Mountainhomes? => Human liaison/diplomat talks like he's from the Mountainhomes
2010-07-25 11:53 Footkerchief Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-25 11:54 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0001102
2010-07-25 11:55 Footkerchief Summary Human liaison/diplomat talks like he's from the Mountainhomes => Human liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement
2010-07-25 14:48 Footkerchief Summary Human liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement => Human/elf liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement
2010-07-25 16:14 Toady One Note Added: 0011027
2010-07-25 16:14 Toady One Assigned To => Toady One
2010-07-25 16:14 Toady One Status new => acknowledged
2010-07-25 16:27 Footkerchief Summary Human/elf liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement => Human/elf diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue
2010-07-25 22:47 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0002848
2010-07-26 09:42 furiousfish Note Added: 0011085
2010-08-05 18:32 HebaruSan Issue Monitored: HebaruSan
2010-08-13 12:17 Volouscheur Note Added: 0011765
2010-08-13 14:30 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0003019
2010-08-17 15:55 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0003055
2010-08-29 13:04 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0003118
2010-08-29 14:54 Areyar Tag Attached: liason
2010-08-29 14:54 Areyar Tag Attached: dialogue
2010-08-29 15:04 Quietust Note Added: 0012236
2010-09-06 08:43 Dwarfu Sticky Issue No => Yes
2010-09-06 08:46 Dwarfu Note Added: 0012455
2010-09-07 02:46 Toady One Note Added: 0012465
2010-09-07 02:46 Toady One Status acknowledged => resolved
2010-09-07 02:46 Toady One Fixed in Version => 0.31.13
2010-09-07 02:46 Toady One Resolution open => fixed
2010-09-07 04:19 Dwarfu Sticky Issue Yes => No
2010-09-24 13:40 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0003240
2010-11-06 08:53 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0003366


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