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0002869Dwarf FortressPathfindingpublic2010-07-28 02:472016-12-06 14:41
ReporterwRAR 
Assigned ToDwarfu 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusconfirmedResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.12 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0002869: Massive "item inaccessible"/"could not find path" spam results from hauling jobs targeting unrevealed items
DescriptionFree dwarves constantly try to haul something (it appears to be refuse from the inside, because it can be disabled by the refuse haul options, but not by the outside refuse haul option), butchers often try to butcher some inaccessible and invisible corpse and I received similar spam messages from the hunter a couple of times. I think all this is about items in caverns, and at least in the case with butchers the items are invisible and not listed in Stocks.
I have some one-way and/or hanging stairs into caverns so it may be related to 0000470
Additional InformationThe save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2840 [^]
TagsSave Included
Attached Files

- Relationships
related to 0001254resolvedToady One When cavern is breached, web collection pathfinding spams with "unable to find path" 
parent of 0002884resolvedToady One cancels store owned item: item inaccessible [every 5 seconds] 
parent of 0003040resolvedDwarfu Dwarves get stuck in a "could not find path" loop for no obvious reason 
has duplicate 0008109resolvedlethosor Underground items create hauling jobs even when not yet discovered 
has duplicate 0008817resolvedDwarfu Flood of stockpile cancellations for no discernible reason 
related to 0008897acknowledgedlethosor With enough looms and automatic web collection enabled, dwarves will only accept web collection jobs 
related to 0002814confirmedLoci message spam: dwarf cancels Hunt: Could not find path 

-  Notes
(0011179)
user891
2010-07-28 03:07

I've had the same spam in with burrows. Dwarves are constantly prioritising Storing Own Item over anything they can do in the burrow, even if going outside means certain death.
(0011202)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-28 15:15

Are the dwarves confined to a burrow?
(0011215)
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-07-28 17:48

I only found 1 stairwell (z-71/z-72) that was an up stair with an up/down below it...but it was blocked off, so it shouldn't have been used in pathing anyways.

Announcements setting was on 'some.'

No burrows (w), no points (N).

One of the items is a bat man spearman left eye tooth on z-123. It is not revealed yet, so this is probably a child of 0000010.
(0011219)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-28 18:33
edited on: 2010-07-28 18:33

Hmm... if there are webs down there, this is probably 0001254.

(0011222)
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-07-28 19:10

There are webs, but I specifically zoomed to the item one of the jobs was canceling on.

The job was 'Store Item in Stockpile' and the cancellation messages were 'Store Item in Stockpile: Could not find path' and 'Store Item in Stockpile: Job item misplaced.'

I forbid all the unrevealed underground animal peoples' parts.

The cancellations also occur on some crundle parts (right upper leg & a tail) in an (now) inaccessible part of the cavern.

The player has done some re-walling down there (may be unrelated) - I can't find a clear path to the crundle parts or the dead dwarf (z-110)(it is possible he may have fallen - the combat reports are cleared so I can't see if it was a collision or not).

However, once forbidden, all cancellation messages stop.

Note to player: Named battle axe down there, unless you create a path to it, may cause problems also - might want to forbid it until you can get to it.
(0011231)
wRAR (reporter)
2010-07-28 21:29
edited on: 2010-07-28 21:36

Dwarfu: yes, the dwarf has fallen about 50 levels I think. The axe is forbidden along with the dwarf's body and other possessions, though it is displayed without {}, I've forgot to check for such bug here.

(0011461)
InsanityPrelude (reporter)
2010-08-03 14:24

This was happening in my fort here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2892 [^]

I suspect there's a corpse somewhere in the hidden part of the bronze colossus's cave that they're going after, because all the visible ones were forbidden already and the constant "Dwarf cancels Store Item In Stockpile: Item inaccessible" spam stopped when I set the refuse stockpile not to accept corpses.
(0011514)
king doom (reporter)
2010-08-05 00:32

This happens when you open up a path into a cavern layer with something the dwarves are assigned to haul, refuse or whatever odds and sods the various animal man civilisations spawn with when the game starts. Since there is a path to the item, the dwarves are assigned to collect it, but since the path has not yet been revealed and is still covered by the fog of war, they can't get to it, and thus you get all the cancel spam.
(0017261)
wRAR (reporter)
2011-04-09 23:38

Well, I haven't seen this yet in new versions.
(0022272)
RedKing (reporter)
2012-04-15 08:45

I can confirm that it still happens as of v34.07.

Have an embark that included (unknown to me at the time) a cave site.

Something down there is pretty regularly racking up the kills of troglodytes and giant olms (which show up on my Status screen under Missing/Deceased). Once I made a refuse stockpile, I was getting spammed with "Urist McHauler cancels Store Item in Stockpile: Item inaccessible." messages. Once I specifically forbade Troglodyte and Giant Olm corpses, the spam went away.
(0029444)
NormalBates (reporter)
2014-08-21 13:28

Still happening to me in 40.09, save here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9480 [^]
(0033962)
CyberPhantom (reporter)
2015-12-16 13:34

I can confirm this is still happening in 0.42.03. A save is available here: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11499 [^]
(0036074)
Loci (manager)
2016-12-06 14:41

v0.43.03:

An ex-liaison's lost teeth in an unexplored cavern caused constant "item inaccessible" spam.

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12600 [^]

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=161506.0 [^]

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-07-28 02:47 wRAR New Issue
2010-07-28 03:07 user891 Note Added: 0011179
2010-07-28 15:15 Footkerchief Note Added: 0011202
2010-07-28 15:16 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0000597
2010-07-28 17:48 Dwarfu Note Added: 0011215
2010-07-28 18:33 Footkerchief Note Added: 0011219
2010-07-28 18:33 Footkerchief Note Edited: 0011219 View Revisions
2010-07-28 19:10 Dwarfu Note Added: 0011222
2010-07-28 20:26 Footkerchief Relationship deleted related to 0000597
2010-07-28 20:27 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0001254
2010-07-28 21:26 wRAR Note Added: 0011230
2010-07-28 21:29 wRAR Note Added: 0011231
2010-07-28 21:33 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0002884
2010-07-28 21:35 wRAR Note Deleted: 0011230
2010-07-28 21:36 wRAR Note Edited: 0011231 View Revisions
2010-08-03 14:24 InsanityPrelude Note Added: 0011461
2010-08-04 22:17 InsanityPrelude Issue Monitored: InsanityPrelude
2010-08-05 00:32 king doom Note Added: 0011514
2010-08-16 10:36 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0003040
2011-02-05 09:49 Dwarfu Tag Attached: Save Included
2011-04-09 23:38 wRAR Note Added: 0017261
2012-04-15 08:45 RedKing Note Added: 0022272
2012-04-16 08:19 Hieronymous Alloy Issue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2014-07-31 12:47 Dwarfu Assigned To => Dwarfu
2014-07-31 12:47 Dwarfu Status new => acknowledged
2014-08-21 13:16 lethosor Relationship added has duplicate 0008109
2014-08-21 13:17 lethosor Summary Massive "item inaccessible"/"could not find path" spam => Massive "item inaccessible"/"could not find path" spam results from hauling jobs targeting unrevealed items
2014-08-21 13:28 NormalBates Note Added: 0029444
2014-08-22 12:52 Footkerchief Status acknowledged => confirmed
2015-02-18 03:26 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0008817
2015-04-05 15:40 lethosor Relationship added related to 0008897
2015-12-16 13:34 CyberPhantom Note Added: 0033962
2016-12-06 14:41 Loci Note Added: 0036074
2017-04-02 15:08 Loci Relationship added related to 0002814
2017-06-08 19:25 Huntthetroll Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll


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