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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0003983Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Cooking and Foodpublic2011-02-16 22:472011-03-03 13:49
Assigned ToToady One 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.31.20 
Summary0003983: Can't make mead -- job can't find honey when it's stockpiled?
DescriptionI have a jar with honey, honeycombs and empty barrels, and "make mead" is unavailable. It says "Needs honey-containing item". This is addition to "Unrotten honey bee honey", which I have.
Tagsbees, jugs, mead
Attached Files

- Relationships
related to 0004003resolvedToady One Cannot make bumblebee mead 
related to 0004043resolvedToady One Making soap from tallow fails if lye is stockpiled 
child of 0003974resolvedToady One Unable to place Nest Box 

-  Notes
Quietust (reporter)
2011-02-17 13:00
edited on: 2011-02-17 13:01

Are you certain you have honey bee honey and not bumblebee honey? (if it's bumblebee honey, then 0004003 is effectively a duplicate of this, albeit with much more details)

GauHelldragon (reporter)
2011-02-17 15:50
edited on: 2011-02-17 15:51

I am certain that it is "Honey bee honey".

Has anyone else had success with making mead? Just what exactly is the "Honey-containing item" supposed to be anyway, if 'Unrotten honey bee honey" is the honey?

Knight Otu (manager)
2011-02-18 14:46

A quick test suggests that the problem lies with jugs not being recognized as valid containers. The similar reaction of making soap from oil does not work for me either when I have rock nut oil in jugs and lye in buckets, while the reaction to create soap from tallow does work. All three reactions use the following block to refer to the liquid container(s) in question:

Thus, since one type of container works while the other does, the container should be at fault. I have another test in mind, though...
Knight Otu (manager)
2011-02-18 15:06
edited on: 2011-02-18 15:11

<s>... yes, adding the [HAS_TOOL_USE:LIQUID_CONTAINER] tag to the jug block does allow me to queue up making mead. I haven't seen if it results in the correct alcohol yet, but I'm confident. So, as a quick fix, if you have reason to expect your liquid to be in a jug or pot, use the tool use tag on that container. Probably do not use it if you expect it in a barrel or bucket. Whether the quick fix should be the actual fix though...</s>

Or not. :( Got the Needs liquid container item error message.

Toady One (administrator)
2011-02-20 04:17

I'm not having trouble making mead. I'll need a save on this -- make sure you have an empty barrel sitting around and the honey bee honey in a jug. I used a wooden jug, if it ends up being a material issue.
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-20 09:05

Reminder sent to: GauHelldragon

GauHelldragon, if you have a save demonstrating this problem, please upload it to [^] (that goes for all reports)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-21 13:57
edited on: 2011-02-21 13:58

Reminder sent to: Knight Otu

Knight Otu, are you able to provide a save? I reopened this on the off chance that you might still have one.

Knight Otu (manager)
2011-02-21 14:18

My saves are here: [^]

GauHelldragon also uploaded saves here: [^] and here: [^]
SirPenguin (reporter)
2011-02-21 15:06

I've definitely had this happen to me before. I just now embarked on a site with the sole intention of rushing to mead, and it worked. So I have no idea what happened.

I'll try and see if I can get it to happen again
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-21 15:16

Reminder sent to: Toady One

Toady, I reopened this report because people have uploaded saves as requested.
GauHelldragon (reporter)
2011-02-21 18:12
edited on: 2011-02-21 18:12

I think we figured out what the problem is. The dwarfs weren't able to use the jugs of honey when they are stockpiled. The same goes with oil.

Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-21 18:51

Most likely the same root cause as 0004043, then.
Mazonas (reporter)
2011-02-22 02:57

I've tried editing the RAWS as above in both the save and the general raws. I sometimes have the game save load with mead brewable, but as soon as a dwarf is allocated to the job I get the announcement that he can't do the job. Then the job option is marked red in the workshop again.

Definitely honey bee honey. Definitely have jugs, pots, barrels, honey, dwarfs with the job activated.
Toady One (administrator)
2011-02-23 23:33

I guess this is the same problem as 0003974, where they use all sorts of tools as barrels in food stockpiles. They should all be sorted out as once when I do that one.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2011-02-16 22:47 GauHelldragon New Issue
2011-02-16 22:48 GauHelldragon Tag Attached: bees
2011-02-16 22:48 GauHelldragon Tag Attached: mead
2011-02-17 12:52 Quietust Note Added: 0015202
2011-02-17 12:52 Quietust Note Deleted: 0015202
2011-02-17 13:00 Quietust Note Added: 0015204
2011-02-17 13:01 Quietust Note Edited: 0015204 View Revisions
2011-02-17 15:50 GauHelldragon Note Added: 0015214
2011-02-17 15:51 GauHelldragon Note Edited: 0015214 View Revisions
2011-02-17 20:35 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0004003
2011-02-18 14:46 Knight Otu Note Added: 0015255
2011-02-18 15:06 Knight Otu Note Added: 0015257
2011-02-18 15:09 Knight Otu Note Edited: 0015257 View Revisions
2011-02-18 15:11 Knight Otu Note Edited: 0015257 View Revisions
2011-02-20 04:17 Toady One Note Added: 0015307
2011-02-20 04:17 Toady One Status new => resolved
2011-02-20 04:17 Toady One Fixed in Version => 0.31.20
2011-02-20 04:17 Toady One Resolution open => unable to reproduce
2011-02-20 04:17 Toady One Assigned To => Toady One
2011-02-20 07:00 Knight Otu Tag Attached: Saves available
2011-02-20 09:05 Footkerchief Note Added: 0015317
2011-02-20 23:17 GauHelldragon Tag Attached: jugs
2011-02-21 13:56 Footkerchief Status resolved => acknowledged
2011-02-21 13:57 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: Knight Otu
2011-02-21 13:57 Footkerchief Note Added: 0015368
2011-02-21 13:57 Footkerchief Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-02-21 13:58 Footkerchief Note Edited: 0015368 View Revisions
2011-02-21 14:18 Knight Otu Note Added: 0015369
2011-02-21 15:06 SirPenguin Note Added: 0015372
2011-02-21 15:16 Footkerchief Note Added: 0015374
2011-02-21 15:17 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2011-02-21 15:17 Footkerchief Note Added: 0015375
2011-02-21 15:18 Footkerchief Note Deleted: 0015375
2011-02-21 15:19 Footkerchief Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-02-21 15:19 Footkerchief Tag Detached: Saves available
2011-02-21 18:12 GauHelldragon Note Added: 0015379
2011-02-21 18:12 GauHelldragon Note Edited: 0015379 View Revisions
2011-02-21 18:12 GauHelldragon Note Edited: 0015379 View Revisions
2011-02-21 18:51 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0004043
2011-02-21 18:51 Footkerchief Note Added: 0015381
2011-02-21 19:10 Footkerchief Summary Can't Make mead => Can't make mead -- job can't find honey when it's stockpiled?
2011-02-22 02:57 Mazonas Note Added: 0015389
2011-02-23 12:42 Khym Chanur Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2011-02-23 23:31 Toady One Relationship replaced related to 0004043
2011-02-23 23:32 Toady One Relationship added child of 0003974
2011-02-23 23:33 Toady One Note Added: 0015436
2011-02-26 15:53 Toady One Status acknowledged => resolved
2011-02-26 15:53 Toady One Resolution unable to reproduce => fixed
2011-03-01 14:31 Knight Otu Issue End Monitor: Knight Otu
2011-03-03 13:49 Khym Chanur Issue End Monitor: Khym Chanur

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