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|0005625||Dwarf Fortress||Dwarf Mode -- Artifacts||public||2012-03-11 18:40||2015-04-06 10:22|
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|Summary||0005625: "Bone" artifact ends up being iron if the mood dwarf is interrupted (by forbidding, combat, etc)|
|Description||My possessed bone carver crafted a chain out of a named zombie grizzly bears paw bone, the result was an iron chain.|
|Steps To Reproduce||Save scummed thrice - received more iron chain, unsure if I can get an alternative out of the dwarf as he has a preference for chains.|
|Additional Information||The same fort has had a bone buckler, door and table come out normally, so it's not bone artifacts themselves that are the problem, unsure as to if it's related to the components he used (a named, zombie creatures paw bone) or the outcome of a chain.|
The chain still has proper decorations unlike the old bone artifact bug.
|Marked as potentially related to that old iron/bone artifact bug, but sounds slightly different.|
Reminder sent to: Nagassh
Have you done any modding?
|Nope, nothing has been touched.|
Khym Chanur (reporter)
|Possibly related, someone on the forums reported an alligator bone chest artifact being made from the body of a dwarven were-llama: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=104504.0 [^]|
Let me consolidate what we have here:
bone -> iron
bone type 1 -> bone type 2
So bone artifacts "can" be bugged, but aren't always. Artifacts made from bone can result in artifacts made of completely different material.
|A bone artifact being made of iron would be due to the game being unable to determine the material of the artifact's base item - material 0:0 happens to be INORGANIC:IRON.|
|I thought I'd add an edge case I just saw, which caused this in 0.34.07. A dwarf started a shell artifact, but the mussels re-animated while he was working. The mooding dwarf killed the zombie mussels, but didn't re-use the shells. The result was an iron artifact chain.|
I've had this happen for artifacts when I tried to control the material used in the artifact by mass-forbidding everything else in the stocks screen. It goes something like this:
- Have a moody dwarf who wants, let's say, rough gems.
- Mass-forbid all but the most expensive rough gems available in my fort.
- Wait for the moody dwarf to finish gathering materials and begin construction.
- Mass-un-forbid all those rough gems.
The key step:
- Accidentally mass-forbid rough gems of the type the moody dwarf was using, because I'm pressing down then F repeatedly and don't notice in time when I reach the diamonds.
- Unforbid immediately, before leaving the stocks screen - but it's too late.
If the gem were being used for anything other than a strange mood, the job would simply be canceled. For a mood, the item is no longer marked with "TSK", but the moody dwarf continues without it and it will not be included in the final product.
Lastly, if it was the base material for the artifact, then it will be replaced with "iron" generated out of thin air. I'm not sure if the artifact then gets the value of iron. If so, this could be exploited, say by causing a woodworker to use "iron" which is ten times more valuable than whatever wood they were using.
I suspect, though, that the "iron" is really just an artifact of the process of generating the string, which sees absolutely no base material and still has to describe it somehow; in this case the value contribution from the missing material is probably zero.
edited on: 2012-04-01 14:08
It's not a display glitch - if the artifact says it's made of iron, then it's really made of iron. If it couldn't determine the material, then it would actually say "unknown material".
Back in 40d and earlier, trying to pull this trick would've resulted in it being made of toad bone.
PetWolverine is probably onto something, I've just had a crocodile-bone helm come out as iron, I mass-forbid all bones while my hunter was dragging in the croc since I'd prefer a croc-helm to a tiger one. Ended up coming out as iron.
So it looks like messing around with mass-forbidding items during moods causes this bug, still present in the latest DF build.
edited on: 2015-04-06 11:55
Turns out I had posted a duplicate of this issue (0.40.24). Here's my experiences with this bug:
I've tried this so far for cloth, leather, wood and stone moods. Let's say you have a clothier in a mood, who requires:
Forbidding the two cloths (you can do this through t and select workshop) will give you an IRON piece of artifact clothing, decorated with gem and wood. I have yet to test the viability of these iron clothings as armor. Dwarfbucks-wise, the item is valued significantly higher. Decently exploitable especially with artifact weapons/armor from non-metal moods such as leather or bone.
|2012-03-11 18:40||Nagassh||New Issue|
|2012-03-11 19:03||Logical2u||Relationship added||related to 0000359|
|2012-03-11 19:03||Logical2u||Note Added: 0021383|
|2012-03-11 19:19||Footkerchief||Note Added: 0021384|
|2012-03-11 19:20||Footkerchief||Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE|
|2012-03-11 19:22||Nagassh||Note Added: 0021386|
|2012-03-14 19:43||Footkerchief||Issue Monitored: Toady One|
|2012-03-15 00:11||Khym Chanur||Note Added: 0021477|
|2012-03-15 00:11||Khym Chanur||Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur|
|2012-03-15 00:51||Greendogo||Note Added: 0021478|
|2012-03-15 00:51||Greendogo||Issue Monitored: Greendogo|
|2012-03-19 07:01||Footkerchief||Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE|
|2012-03-19 12:23||Quietust||Note Added: 0021603|
|2012-04-01 08:13||maanahr||Note Added: 0021984|
|2012-04-01 08:15||maanahr||Issue Monitored: maanahr|
|2012-04-01 09:30||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0005139|
|2012-04-01 13:52||PetWolverine||Note Added: 0021994|
|2012-04-01 13:56||PetWolverine||Issue Monitored: PetWolverine|
|2012-04-01 14:07||Quietust||Note Added: 0021995|
|2012-04-01 14:08||Quietust||Note Edited: 0021995||View Revisions|
|2012-06-28 04:28||Nagassh||Note Added: 0023119|
|2012-06-28 04:28||Nagassh||Tag Attached: 0.34.11|
|2012-06-28 04:29||Nagassh||Tag Attached: artifacts|
|2014-01-26 10:10||Footkerchief||Summary||Bone artifact made of iron => "Bone" artifact ends up being iron if the mood dwarf is interrupted (by forbidding, combat, etc)|
|2014-01-27 13:43||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0003899|
|2014-01-27 13:56||Footkerchief||Relationship added||has duplicate 0003217|
|2014-01-27 13:56||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0002887|
|2014-10-01 09:53||Footkerchief||Relationship replaced||has duplicate 0002887|
|2014-10-01 09:53||Footkerchief||Issue Monitored: Solra Bizna|
|2015-04-06 08:40||Afghani84||Issue Monitored: Afghani84|
|2015-04-06 09:20||JonBaker_123||Note Added: 0032533|
|2015-04-06 09:22||JonBaker_123||Note Edited: 0032533||View Revisions|
|2015-04-06 10:21||lethosor||Relationship added||has duplicate 0008909|
|2015-04-06 10:22||lethosor||Tag Detached: 0.34.11|
|2015-04-06 11:55||JonBaker_123||Note Edited: 0032533||View Revisions|
|2016-11-10 09:28||Loci||Relationship added||has duplicate 0010068|
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