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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0005748Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Childcarepublic2012-04-01 13:112012-06-03 19:06
Assigned ToToady One 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.34.07 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.34.11 
Summary0005748: Children Still Tantruming/Going Berserk at Age 2 Over Clothing
DescriptionI've lost two to berserk, and two more are headed that way. They start unhappy by a partial lack clothing, then discard or destroy (I could not locate the discarded clothing, if it was discarded) the rest of their clothing in tantrums. After that they become miserable and then go berserk.
Additional Informationrelated to 0005705
TagsNo tags attached.
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- Relationships
related to 0005705resolvedToady One dwarf children die from embarassment at not being dressed at age 2 
has duplicate 0005870resolvedKnight Otu Children going insane from lack of clothing. 
related to 0005775new Modded creatures have unhappy thoughts from a lack of clothing in civilization 

-  Notes
slink (reporter)
2012-04-01 13:44
edited on: 2012-04-01 13:45

Save here: [^]

This is while first child is still berserk, before it dies.

Kogut (reporter)
2012-04-01 22:50

Is it save of world generated in 34.06 or previous version?
slink (reporter)
2012-04-02 04:54

Generated in 34.07.
slink (reporter)
2012-04-07 10:06

I've also come to realize that dresses and robes don't count as leg coverings, despite that they do for armoring purposes. Do I need to make a new issue for this, or is it already known, or was it never intended that they do so?
Steb (reporter)
2012-04-10 06:10
edited on: 2012-04-12 03:55

I am still getting this occasionally despite an ample supply of trousers, socks, shoes and vests. I have lost 2 children to nakedness-related insanity out of around 20 growing to childhood from infancy. I will upload a save if it happens again. World genned in .06 I think, running .07.

Edit: Save not forthcoming due to full-scale tantrum spiral.

Crandal626 (reporter)
2012-04-10 14:10

World genned in 0.34.07 is unplayable due to tantrumming babies at 20 days old murdering my broker and others due to not having clothing.
Videospirit (reporter)
2012-04-10 20:10

My babies are perfectly happy without clothes, and they go get dressed when they grow up to children before things get too bad. Do you have enough unowned clothing for your children to wear?
slink (reporter)
2012-04-11 20:10

Videospirit: Babies have never needed clothing in any of my fortresses. Children are not supposed to need clothing in 34.07, but by the observations of some players, including me, they still do.
Blakmane (reporter)
2012-04-18 02:17

I can confirm this still has not been resolved. I've had four children die so far to clothing related unhappiness, which is rapidly causing a tantrum spiral and thus the end of my fortress. I've noticed that a lot of the children are wearing bits and pieces of clothing, so it isn't that they aren't claiming/wearing at all. Possibly they aren't claiming the clothing fast enough, or the negative thoughts associated are too strong/don't go away properly once clothing is claimed. Often the clothing-related thoughts are the only negative thoughts on the list, but are still sufficient to cause insanity.
kwieland (reporter)
2012-04-21 16:39
edited on: 2012-04-30 13:47

Miserable by the age of 1, tantrum and brawls at the age of two!

Jon-Ace (reporter)
2012-05-23 14:48

In 0.34.10 as well
HiEv (reporter)
2012-05-23 19:03

Toady's bugfix description in the 03/26/2012 development logs says, "removed negative clothing thoughts for children", but the way things are working I think he meant to write "babies" instead of "children".

If that's the case then things are working as intended now.
slink (reporter)
2012-05-28 20:00
edited on: 2012-05-28 20:00

Yes, we know you think that, HiEv. We still haven't heard that from him.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2012-04-01 13:11 slink New Issue
2012-04-01 13:44 slink Note Added: 0021993
2012-04-01 13:45 slink Note Edited: 0021993 View Revisions
2012-04-01 22:50 Kogut Note Added: 0022007
2012-04-02 04:54 slink Note Added: 0022022
2012-04-02 12:06 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0005705
2012-04-05 08:54 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0005775
2012-04-07 10:06 slink Note Added: 0022141
2012-04-08 10:25 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0005786
2012-04-10 06:10 Steb Note Added: 0022193
2012-04-10 14:10 Crandal626 Note Added: 0022202
2012-04-10 20:10 Videospirit Note Added: 0022208
2012-04-11 20:10 slink Note Added: 0022234
2012-04-12 03:55 Steb Note Edited: 0022193 View Revisions
2012-04-18 02:17 Blakmane Note Added: 0022298
2012-04-21 16:39 kwieland Note Added: 0022323
2012-04-30 13:47 kwieland Note Edited: 0022323 View Revisions
2012-04-30 13:48 kwieland Issue Monitored: kwieland
2012-05-12 05:24 Knight Otu Relationship added has duplicate 0005870
2012-05-23 14:48 Jon-Ace Note Added: 0022690
2012-05-23 19:03 HiEv Note Added: 0022697
2012-05-24 15:11 arclance Issue Monitored: arclance
2012-05-28 15:19 cue Note Added: 0022771
2012-05-28 19:25 cue Note Deleted: 0022771
2012-05-28 20:00 slink Note Added: 0022773
2012-05-28 20:00 slink Note Edited: 0022773 View Revisions
2012-06-03 18:43 Toady One Status new => resolved
2012-06-03 18:43 Toady One Fixed in Version => Next Version
2012-06-03 18:43 Toady One Resolution open => fixed
2012-06-03 18:43 Toady One Assigned To => Toady One
2012-06-03 19:06 kwieland Issue End Monitor: kwieland
2013-03-07 01:26 Dwarfu Relationship deleted related to 0005786

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