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0006874Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Noblespublic2014-07-09 14:182014-09-14 09:43
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.40.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.40.09 
Summary0006874: SITE members automatically promoted to entity leader (MONARCH/king/queen)
DescriptionAfter an attack on my fort which is only in it's first year I noticed that one of my dwarves has become the king, I have not fulfilled any of the necessary things for a king to arrive as it is only still in the first year.
Attached Files

- Relationships
parent of 0007083confirmedFootkerchief Automatic promotion of SITE member to MONARCH causes loss of SITE positions 
has duplicate 0006683resolvedDwarfu Queen part of starting seven 
has duplicate 0007052resolvedDwarfu Architect turned into the queen 
has duplicate 0006877resolvedDwarfu Embarked on a new pocket world, one of my dwarves was the queen 
has duplicate 0007301resolvedDwarfu King appears with no warning 
has duplicate 0007302resolvedDwarfu Dwarf appointed King with no warning 
has duplicate 0007353resolvedFootkerchief Dwarf randomly becomes king... in a fort with 14 dwarves 
has duplicate 0007431resolvedFootkerchief Dwarf made King in a 16 dwarf fort. 
has duplicate 0007602resolvedDwarfu King 'Arrived' unannounced at some stage towards the end of year one 
has duplicate 0007676resolvedDwarfu Queen with 20 population? 
has duplicate 0007893resolvedKnight Otu Embark includes Queen for some reason 
has duplicate 0008037resolvedFootkerchief Spontaneous coronation 
Not all the children of this issue are yet resolved or closed.

-  Notes
Gentlefood (reporter)
2014-07-09 17:11

Have you checked his relationship page? Perhaps he was related to the old King who may have died outside of combat?
GordonCSA (reporter)
2014-07-09 18:35
edited on: 2014-07-10 05:45

I had the same thing happen, after about a year my chief medical dwarf randomly became the king. Not sure if I know everywhere to look, but he didn't seem to be related to the old one.

Edit: I don't think mine happened on load, it was about halfway through a longish session after loading my reloading my fort for the second time.

SteveTheRed (reporter)
2014-07-09 23:44

I've had this happen to me too. I didn't notice exactly when it happened, but there was a message about the fortress not having a liaison, or it could have been on load?
Douba (reporter)
2014-07-11 11:39

This also happened to me. From my Legends, it seems that the Mountainhomes were attacked several times and destroyed. This did not however prevent starting a party to settle new lands, and as soon as I arrived, one of my dwarves became king, issued mandates, got angry, so I had to kill him. Next in line was another dwarf, who became the Queen.
So it seems to be a succession issue, and/or it might be an error to be able to start from an extinct Dwarven civilization.
Dwarfu (manager)
2014-07-11 16:01

Bouchart from 0007052 has this save: [^]
Bouchart (reporter)
2014-07-14 18:30

I can confirm this still happens in 4003.

Checking the new monarch's relationship page doesn't crash the game, although it might be interesting to note that this particular dwarf doesn't have any relatives at all, despite being set in a world 500 years old.
nekoxmachina (reporter)
2014-07-15 01:24

>Checking the new monarch's relationship page doesn't crash the game, although it might be interesting to note that this particular dwarf doesn't have any relatives at all, despite being set in a world 500 years old.

As I understand, first 7-people squad is randomly generated & won't have any relationships around the world.
As well as 1st & 2nd migration waves.
thvaz (reporter)
2014-07-15 02:00

If the civilization was extinct, this is supposed to happen - your dwarves are rebuilding it and one of them is chosen to be king/queen. I think it is intentional.
howech (reporter)
2014-07-15 18:27

I also have a case of this in 40.03. I have a total of 14 dwarves, and one of them seems to think that he is king. Never seen a king before.
Legendsmith (reporter)
2014-07-15 20:27

Isn't this intentional? If you're the last remaining outpost of a civilisation, you're going to get the king.
Hinaichigo (reporter)
2014-07-15 23:40

Yeah this sounds somewhat intentional to me.
Larix2 (reporter)
2014-07-16 02:41

If it's a feature that's supposed to stay, i think it'd be a good idea to give an embark warning when reviving a dead civilisation so you know what you're getting into.
SirPenguin (reporter)
2014-07-16 08:29

In playing around Legends mode, I think that succession in general has a tendency to pick from the "abstracted population" rather than proper historical figures.

In several cases I've seen new royal lines where the monarch is "of unknown parentage", is unmarried with no children, and has just a handful of events (like, becoming farmer or being attacked) before being crowned
musicmastermsh (reporter)
2014-07-17 10:39

Found again in 40.03 - my civ screen shows no other civs at all, though they do exist. link - [^]

Expedition leader is about to become queen.
Myrkky100 (reporter)
2014-07-26 06:51

Found this in 40.04. Suddenly my clerk turned into a queen in the winter of year 5 (still doing clerical work though).

I took a copy of the game files and had a look at the Legends. Apparently my civilization had only 1 hillock and my site, the hillock got invaded so a random dwarf at my site was promoted. Makes sense but it would be nice to make the choice yourself.
cwilhelm (reporter)
2014-07-28 14:16

Just happened in 40.05 - according to my civ screen, my civ is not extinct. The bigger issue is that this came with no announcment in year one.
Skid (reporter)
2014-08-09 16:50

I also got this bug. My female Chief Medical Dwarf was promoted to "King" without any warning except a missing liaison with the fall caravan.

However, I was still able to assign her to bookkeeper and manager, and all of her civilian labours remained active and modifiable.
Toady One (administrator)
2014-08-14 11:06

This is intentional, but I didn't add the announcement to all of the circumstances. I've tried to catch as many as I could now, with appropriate sentences. I'll also consider an embark warning if it is practical.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2014-07-09 14:18 Fishcanfly New Issue
2014-07-09 17:11 Gentlefood Note Added: 0025419
2014-07-09 18:35 GordonCSA Note Added: 0025435
2014-07-09 18:35 GordonCSA Issue Monitored: GordonCSA
2014-07-09 23:44 SteveTheRed Note Added: 0025493
2014-07-10 05:45 GordonCSA Note Edited: 0025435 View Revisions
2014-07-11 07:02 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0006683
2014-07-11 11:39 Douba Note Added: 0025810
2014-07-11 15:58 Dwarfu Summary Randomly promoted dwarf to a king => SITE members automatically promoted to entity leader (MONARCH/king/queen)
2014-07-11 15:58 Dwarfu Assigned To => Dwarfu
2014-07-11 15:58 Dwarfu Status new => acknowledged
2014-07-11 15:59 Dwarfu Relationship added parent of 0007083
2014-07-11 16:00 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0007052
2014-07-11 16:01 Dwarfu Note Added: 0025868
2014-07-11 16:01 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0006877
2014-07-11 16:03 Dwarfu Relationship replaced has duplicate 0006683
2014-07-11 16:03 Dwarfu Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2014-07-11 16:04 Dwarfu Sticky Issue No => Yes
2014-07-14 18:25 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0007301
2014-07-14 18:26 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0007302
2014-07-14 18:30 Bouchart Note Added: 0026399
2014-07-15 01:24 nekoxmachina Note Added: 0026439
2014-07-15 02:00 thvaz Note Added: 0026442
2014-07-15 16:44 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0007353
2014-07-15 18:27 howech Note Added: 0026571
2014-07-15 20:27 Legendsmith Note Added: 0026587
2014-07-15 22:26 4maskwolf Issue Monitored: 4maskwolf
2014-07-15 23:40 Hinaichigo Note Added: 0026599
2014-07-16 02:41 Larix2 Note Added: 0026604
2014-07-16 08:29 SirPenguin Note Added: 0026634
2014-07-17 10:39 musicmastermsh Note Added: 0026762
2014-07-17 16:35 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0007431
2014-07-24 08:02 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0007602
2014-07-26 06:51 Myrkky100 Note Added: 0027591
2014-07-27 20:04 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0007676
2014-07-28 14:16 cwilhelm Note Added: 0027807
2014-07-28 14:40 Kanddak Issue Monitored: Kanddak
2014-07-28 14:49 Dwarfu Status acknowledged => confirmed
2014-08-01 08:30 int_ua Issue Monitored: int_ua
2014-08-07 11:02 Knight Otu Relationship added has duplicate 0007893
2014-08-09 16:50 Skid Note Added: 0028682
2014-08-14 11:06 Toady One Note Added: 0029033
2014-08-14 11:06 Toady One Status confirmed => resolved
2014-08-14 11:06 Toady One Fixed in Version => Next Version
2014-08-14 11:06 Toady One Resolution open => fixed
2014-08-14 11:06 Toady One Assigned To Dwarfu => Toady One
2014-08-14 11:16 4maskwolf Issue End Monitor: 4maskwolf
2014-08-14 15:35 Kanddak Issue End Monitor: Kanddak
2014-08-16 08:00 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0008037
2014-09-14 09:43 lethosor Sticky Issue Yes => No

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