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0009286Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Justicepublic2015-12-09 08:472018-08-13 01:01
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PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.42.02 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0009286: Fistfights don't count as crimes
DescriptionI'm not sure if this is a bug, but I'm going to report it anyways.

Dwarves occasionally start fistfights after arguments, which is fine and intended. However, these fights, unlike tantrums, don't count as crimes and don't appear on the Justice screen. Dwarves tend to get injured, sometimes quite badly. They seem to enjoy it, though.
Steps To Reproduce1. Have dwarves prone to starting fights
2. Wait for them to talk to each other and argue about differing values
3. A fistfight occurs
4. Check the Justice screen, nothing there
Attached Files

- Relationships
has duplicate 0009288resolvedDwarfu Killing with fists does not escalate fights from brawl 
has duplicate 0009990resolvedLoci Brawls don't cause reporting of crimes 
related to 0009322new Death from sudden brawl/loyalty cascade is not reported as a crime 

-  Notes
Talvieno (reporter)
2015-12-13 13:41
edited on: 2015-12-13 13:41

Can confirm that this happens. I've actually had a couple instances of it.

Detros (manager)
2015-12-13 13:57

There are already some other similar reports (like 0009322) so this should get confirmed and linked to them next time manager goes around. Give them bit more time, with the new version there was a <s>cat</s>bugreportsplosion.
chaosvolt (reporter)
2015-12-24 09:43

Hnnng. Had my first barroom brawl gone awry thanks to this bug, recently.

Now I kinda wish we could inflict dystopian arbitrary punishments at will.
ANormalUsername (reporter)
2016-03-13 18:57

I had this happen in my world. It ended in a death and 9 injuries
risusinf (reporter)
2018-08-05 03:52

FantasticDorf (reporter)
2018-08-05 07:35
edited on: 2018-08-05 18:13


I talked about this here, but fistfights have their own set of 'rules', no weapons, and whoever is beaten onto a pulp onto the floor first ends the fight irregardless and left alone by other dwarves.

If this specific interaction of being in a heap on the floor having lost the fight is not logged by the crime screen, then i can imagine its just the justice screen showing its age since it was made before the new fight escalation mechanic was produced.

Also in the linked comment, any creature at all (undead, large predator creature etc.) can start a fistfight with a civilian using paws and wrestling, but always act hostile to a armed or lethal escalation opponent (which are logged properly for justice)

illest503 (reporter)
2018-08-13 01:01

Fistfights shouldn't be illegal IMO!

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2015-12-09 08:47 Daeron New Issue
2015-12-13 13:41 Talvieno Note Added: 0033843
2015-12-13 13:41 Talvieno Note Edited: 0033843 View Revisions
2015-12-13 13:57 Detros Note Added: 0033844
2015-12-14 13:45 bnrubin Issue Monitored: bnrubin
2015-12-14 18:46 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0009322
2015-12-16 15:43 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0009288
2015-12-16 15:49 Dwarfu Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2015-12-24 09:43 chaosvolt Note Added: 0034179
2016-01-18 23:37 Jixijenga Issue Monitored: Jixijenga
2016-03-13 18:57 ANormalUsername Note Added: 0034844
2018-04-16 18:35 Huntthetroll Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll
2018-08-05 03:52 risusinf Note Added: 0038680
2018-08-05 07:35 FantasticDorf Note Added: 0038683
2018-08-05 07:36 FantasticDorf Note Edited: 0038683 View Revisions
2018-08-05 12:35 Loci Relationship added has duplicate 0009990
2018-08-05 18:13 lethosor Note Edited: 0038683 View Revisions
2018-08-05 18:13 lethosor Note Edited: 0038683 View Revisions
2018-08-13 01:01 illest503 Note Added: 0038715

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