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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0000093Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Itemspublic2010-04-01 21:462012-04-14 19:22
ReporterLightning4 
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.31.11 
Summary0000093: Flasks/waterskins/goblets made of wrong material (non-magma forges only?)
DescriptionStill uses iron bars, but spontaneously produces gold flasks instead of iron. Has the normal properties of gold.
Steps To ReproduceMake iron flasks in the metalsmith's forge.
Tagsiron, workshop
Attached Files

- Relationships
related to 0000221resolvedToady One Making leather waterskins actually produces no-material flasks 
related to 0002817resolvedToady One Making glass vials results in flasks of the wrong material 
parent of 0000754resolvedToady One Brass goblets are produced as Iron goblets. 
parent of 0000922resolvedToady One Smelting "Electrum Goblet" leads to "Gold goblet" 
parent of 0001051resolvedToady One Silver makes iron flasks 
parent of 0001509resolvedToady One Forging copper goblets yields gold goblets 
parent of 0002000resolvedToady One goblets turn into some type of when finished 
has duplicate 0000214closedFootkerchief Construction of Iron Goblets resulted in Gold Goblets 
has duplicate 0000815closedFootkerchief Creating Iron Vials results in Gold Vials 
has duplicate 0001352closedFootkerchief Forging platinum goblets yields iron goblets 
has duplicate 0001650closedFootkerchief Ordering a goblet, craft, or flask of any metal to be smelted creates an equivilant gold item 
has duplicate 0002466resolvedLogical2u Dwarves have mastered alchemy 
has duplicate 0002537resolvedLogical2u Producing silver goblets gives me iron goblets 
has duplicate 0002719resolvedFootkerchief "Forge Brass Goblet" gives gold goblets. 
has duplicate 0002759resolvedFootkerchief Ordered one got another 
related to 0002194resolvedToady One Leather Work Shop Always Makes Flasks. 

-  Notes
(0000167)
arcaner (reporter)
2010-04-02 07:29

I seem to recall in the forum thread that the reverse is also true. Metal smithing with gold bars produces iron objects.
(0000276)
derigo (reporter)
2010-04-02 13:04

creating steel goblets produces iron goblets, as well.
(0000298)
Asmodeous (reporter)
2010-04-02 14:52

Smithing Platinum goblets also produces iron goblets, as well.
(0000304)
Draco18s (reporter)
2010-04-02 15:15

Obviously our dwarves have invented true alchemy!

What's lead turn into?
(0000309)
plenum (reporter)
2010-04-02 15:36

Didn't find alchemy in the jobs list. Another bug.
(0000374)
Untelligent (reporter)
2010-04-02 19:37

Alchemy is under Other, I think.
(0000631)
MooUK (reporter)
2010-04-03 12:58

Similar: just asked for silver goblets, received iron.
(0000678)
Draco18s (reporter)
2010-04-03 15:11

Just tried this for myself, Iron Bars -> Iron Goblets, Iron Flasks, and all other crafts.
(0000741)
dibujante (reporter)
2010-04-03 18:48

Creating platinum goblets makes iron goblets :(
(0000835)
RiceMunk (reporter)
2010-04-04 02:40

Possibly related is that if you look at the (z)status screen's stone allocations, a lot of the ores (gold, silver and platinum nuggets included) seem to have a "make sharp blades" property attached to them in addition to smelting foo bars and such. It wasn't like this in the old versions of DF.
(0000886)
Steb (reporter)
2010-04-04 10:33

"make rock sword" can now use a variety of materials as well as obsidian, many of them are native metal ores
(0001679)
Relheun (reporter)
2010-04-06 22:40

I don't know if its related, but I tried forging gold goblets and got sandstone mugs instead; trying to make fine pewter flasks produced siltstone flasks.
(0001934)
Count Dorku (reporter)
2010-04-07 21:45

I have the most expensive alchemy yet.

Adamantine Wafers -> Iron Goblets. (After attempting to make platinum goblets failed miserably, I thought I'd try a different material - and I'd just found the adamantine.)

Oddly, platinum produces platinum crafts just fine, the issue seems to be with goblets.
(0001997)
Shurhaian (reporter)
2010-04-08 05:20
edited on: 2010-04-08 05:21

Could this be related to 0000112 or vice versa? Just by the fact that reaction material products seem to be rather buggered for some specific craft reactions, and what seems to be happening there is all the material options being listed with identical titles. Something like that going on with goblets might help to explain the seemingly semirandom behaviour of that.

(0002454)
snus-mumrik (reporter)
2010-04-09 16:33

Yes, same bug. Copper bars > gold goblets.
(0002875)
Kogan Loloklam (reporter)
2010-04-11 13:59

I attempted to make Platinum flasks. These turned into gold flasks.
(0003087)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-04-12 11:03

Heck of alot of alchemy going on here.....
(0003216)
Khym Chanur (reporter)
2010-04-13 00:42

With 0.31.02, I've tasked the creation of gold, silver, and tin goblets, and always got what I asked for. I'm running DF under Wine on Linux, in case that makes a difference.
(0003423)
Shoobs (reporter)
2010-04-14 00:52

I would like to make a note on "make sharp blades".
They can be made from wood now.
(0003585)
kaefermelder (reporter)
2010-04-14 17:49

31.03 still makes iron flasks from nickel bars here
(0003892)
Matsci (reporter)
2010-04-16 13:13

Attempted to make Silver Goblets, Got Gold. Attempted to make Zinc Goblets, Got iron.
(0003956)
Bury (reporter)
2010-04-17 00:55
edited on: 2010-04-17 00:55

I've tried gold, platinum, electrum, silver and always get iron goblets(31.03). Flasks also have this problem but as mentioned above crafts are ok.

(0004293)
teethering (reporter)
2010-04-19 18:58

yep just ordered gold goblets got iron instead.

also, ordered leather flasks and got material-less flasks. no description of what it's made of, just says flask.
(0004362)
Christes (reporter)
2010-04-20 11:41

Yep, attempting to make zinc and lead goblets gives me iron goblets. This is 31.03
(0004952)
lando242 (reporter)
2010-04-24 22:48

Used my only trifle pewter bar to make some goblets for a demand, got 3 iron goblets in return. Shazbot. Running Mayday's version of 31.03 with no other mods installed.
(0005183)
rhsbscipio (reporter)
2010-04-26 14:27

5 metal bar types I have tried resulted in gold goblets. Multiple tries with copper result in the same every time. (Nickel Silver, Lead, Electrum, Copper, and Tin all tried, same result.)
(0005649)
cswvna (reporter)
2010-04-29 03:31

I tried forging silver, lead, copper, brass, zinc, and billon into goblets with charcoal (coke was forbidden) and produced all gold goblets. Then I forbade charcoal and used coke for another set of the same six metals in the same game at the same forge, and produced all iron goblets.

I have not tried this with magma. Can someone verify these results?
(0006417)
Kavalion (reporter)
2010-05-08 10:08

Making Steel Flasks produced Iron Flasks for me.
(0008166)
jfs (reporter)
2010-06-11 17:26

Any chance this is also related to artifacts made of bone turning into iron?
(0008347)
Khym Chanur (reporter)
2010-06-13 16:56

Looks like it's a problem with non-magma forges. With 0.31.06 (native Linux) I had both a magma forge and a regular forge (fueled with coke) in the same game. I ordered gold goblets at each: the magma forge made gold goblets, the regular forge made iron goblets.
(0008737)
madk (reporter)
2010-06-19 16:52

Same issue here.
(0009093)
cephalo (reporter)
2010-06-25 10:32

gold flasks from copper bars here.
(0009529)
slink (reporter)
2010-07-02 10:22

Electrum goblets turned out to be iron. Too bad, because it is a mandate. :( I was using a coke forge. 31.08 SDL.
(0010241)
pontiuspirate (reporter)
2010-07-14 09:44

v0.31.10, no modifications - I have attempted forging goblets out of the following materials, and each resulted in iron: Silver, Platinum, Lead, Nickel, Zinc, Brass, Bronze, Rose Gold, and Iron
(0010242)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-07-14 09:57

You know, since the shell/bone artifacts turning into iron bug ( 0000359 ) is fixed in .11, maybe Toady could check whether this one is fixed. Thats if whatever was causing the bug with the artifacts is the same as the one here.
(0010318)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-07-15 01:09

This should be fixed for 0.31.11. It wasn't the same cause as the artifact/shell bugs, but I found it and cleaned it up. It wasn't clearing the fuel properly, and that randomized the material depending on what mods/OS you are on.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-01 21:46 Lightning4 New Issue
2010-04-02 06:39 Todestool Tag Attached: workshop
2010-04-02 07:29 arcaner Note Added: 0000167
2010-04-02 13:04 derigo Note Added: 0000276
2010-04-02 14:52 Asmodeous Note Added: 0000298
2010-04-02 15:15 Draco18s Note Added: 0000304
2010-04-02 15:36 plenum Note Added: 0000309
2010-04-02 19:37 Untelligent Note Added: 0000374
2010-04-02 19:41 Dwarfu Tag Attached: iron
2010-04-03 11:15 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0000214
2010-04-03 11:15 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: CyberGenesis
2010-04-03 12:58 MooUK Note Added: 0000631
2010-04-03 15:11 Draco18s Note Added: 0000678
2010-04-03 18:48 dibujante Note Added: 0000741
2010-04-04 02:40 RiceMunk Note Added: 0000835
2010-04-04 10:33 Steb Note Added: 0000886
2010-04-06 22:40 Relheun Note Added: 0001679
2010-04-07 17:22 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0000754
2010-04-07 21:45 Count Dorku Note Added: 0001934
2010-04-08 05:20 Shurhaian Note Added: 0001997
2010-04-08 05:21 Shurhaian Note Edited: 0001997 View Revisions
2010-04-08 13:22 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0000815
2010-04-09 04:19 Khym Chanur Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-04-09 10:17 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0000221
2010-04-09 16:33 snus-mumrik Note Added: 0002454
2010-04-09 16:37 Felblood Issue Monitored: Felblood
2010-04-10 10:56 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0000922
2010-04-11 13:59 Kogan Loloklam Note Added: 0002875
2010-04-12 10:51 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0001051
2010-04-12 10:53 Footkerchief Summary Create iron flask produces gold flasks => Flasks/waterskins/goblets made of wrong material
2010-04-12 11:03 smjjames Note Added: 0003087
2010-04-13 00:42 Khym Chanur Note Added: 0003216
2010-04-13 01:13 CyberGenesis Issue End Monitor: CyberGenesis
2010-04-14 00:52 Shoobs Note Added: 0003423
2010-04-14 17:49 kaefermelder Note Added: 0003585
2010-04-16 13:13 Matsci Note Added: 0003892
2010-04-17 00:55 Bury Note Added: 0003956
2010-04-17 00:55 Bury Note Edited: 0003956 View Revisions
2010-04-19 18:58 teethering Note Added: 0004293
2010-04-19 19:35 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0001352
2010-04-20 11:41 Christes Note Added: 0004362
2010-04-24 22:48 lando242 Note Added: 0004952
2010-04-25 02:12 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0001509
2010-04-26 14:27 rhsbscipio Note Added: 0005183
2010-04-28 14:06 Footkerchief Category General => Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Items
2010-04-29 03:31 cswvna Note Added: 0005649
2010-04-29 21:13 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0001650
2010-05-08 10:08 Kavalion Note Added: 0006417
2010-05-13 09:34 Skandraken Issue Monitored: Skandraken
2010-05-20 20:00 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0002000
2010-06-11 12:40 Conti Issue Monitored: Conti
2010-06-11 14:48 Cel Issue Monitored: Cel
2010-06-11 15:23 Footkerchief Sticky Issue No => Yes
2010-06-11 17:26 jfs Note Added: 0008166
2010-06-13 16:56 Khym Chanur Note Added: 0008347
2010-06-13 17:17 Footkerchief Summary Flasks/waterskins/goblets made of wrong material => Flasks/waterskins/goblets made of wrong material (non-magma forges only?)
2010-06-19 13:21 Kanddak Issue Monitored: Kanddak
2010-06-19 16:52 madk Note Added: 0008737
2010-06-24 19:15 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0002466
2010-06-25 10:32 cephalo Note Added: 0009093
2010-07-01 17:22 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0002537
2010-07-02 10:22 slink Note Added: 0009529
2010-07-14 09:44 pontiuspirate Note Added: 0010241
2010-07-14 09:52 JZE Issue Monitored: JZE
2010-07-14 09:57 smjjames Note Added: 0010242
2010-07-14 14:50 pontiuspirate Issue Monitored: pontiuspirate
2010-07-15 01:07 Toady One Relationship replaced related to 0000221
2010-07-15 01:09 Toady One Note Added: 0010318
2010-07-15 01:09 Toady One Status new => resolved
2010-07-15 01:09 Toady One Fixed in Version => 0.31.11
2010-07-15 01:09 Toady One Resolution open => fixed
2010-07-15 01:09 Toady One Assigned To => Toady One
2010-07-15 04:56 Conti Issue End Monitor: Conti
2010-07-15 05:57 Footkerchief Sticky Issue Yes => No
2010-07-16 05:18 Khym Chanur Issue End Monitor: Khym Chanur
2010-07-16 12:55 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0002719
2010-07-18 22:30 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0002759
2010-07-20 18:16 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0002194
2010-07-24 19:40 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0002817
2010-07-25 09:42 Cel Issue End Monitor: Cel
2012-04-14 19:22 Felblood Issue End Monitor: Felblood


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