0000957: Invading trolls arrive with civilian professions

(0002678)
oliver (reporter)
2010-04-10 17:19

A save showing this (after the siege arrived) is at http://s3test.randomly.org/df/957/region6-aut-54_civilian-trolls.zip [^]

(0004569)
Leperous (reporter)
2010-04-22 03:58
edited on: 2010-04-22 03:58

This is brilliant, I'm being attacked by a Troll Clerk and a Troll Surgeon.

(0004572)
Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-04-22 04:11
edited on: 2010-04-22 04:13

Isn't this a feature?

(Well... perhaps troll shouldn't get some professions, like armorer and woodcuter, but I like that they can be woodcutters and fish dissectors. Adds a bit of flavour and tell you the're not just monsters, they're people too! :))

(0004575)
Proteus (reporter)
2010-04-22 05:13
edited on: 2010-04-22 08:21

I would only call it a bug if the troll medic suddenly,
after they had beaten you half dead, would carry you to a hospital zone and treat your wounds

:D

(0005486)
Meta (reporter)
2010-04-28 01:15

I also got this bug with v0.31.03.
I uploaded a movie of it :
http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-2146-bug03103invadingtrollswithprofession [^]

(0005835)
Kumquat (reporter)
2010-05-01 12:11

Same thing happens (happened?) with tamed tigermen brought by elf caravans.

(0009354)
ChickenLips (reporter)
2010-06-30 01:10
edited on: 2010-06-30 01:13

I also am noticing that in statues and kill lists they're being shown a bit oddly (I presume the same would go for engravings and figurines, though I haven't seen one show up yet). In kill lists, each one is listed as "the Troll" (which is itself merely verbally awkward in that context, but indicative of something a bit off overall). In a statue made recently, it was as follows:

+gabbro statue+

This is a superior quality gabbro statue.
The item is a superiorly designed image of the troll and "Selena" Pagedpelts the White Jaw of Seals in gabbro by "Flask" Avuzam. Is making a plaintive gesture. "Selena" Pagedpelts the White Jaw of Seals is striking a menacing pose. The artwork relates to the mortal wounding of the troll by the dwarf "Selena" Pagedpelts the White Jaw of Seals with a steel battle axe in Blackspire in the midspring of 1057 during Kok Snos' "The Assault of Rampage."

Really cool statue, but clearly it's hitting something of a hitch with trolls in this regard. (Just in case it comes up in mind, the "Is making a plaintive gesture." part is not a transcribing mistake on my part -- that is indeed how it shows up in-game.)

(0009357)
slink (reporter)
2010-06-30 05:22

They don't have any proper names. That happens if you don't give them the CAN_SPEAK token in the raws. The problem is that if you give them the CAN_SPEAK token, then they send caravans to trade with you unless you make them either thieves (like kobolds) or child-snatchers (like goblins). This happened also in 40d.

(0019048)
Kogut (reporter)
2011-11-28 03:13
edited on: 2011-11-28 03:13

"Is <foo>ing <foo>." descriptions are reported as 0004971

(0019050)
Quietust (reporter)
2011-11-29 09:49

Kogut: however, invading trolls no longer generate "Is <foo>ing <foo>." events because they all have names as of version 0.31.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-10 17:16	oliver	New Issue
2010-04-10 17:19	oliver	Note Added: 0002678
2010-04-22 03:58	Leperous	Note Added: 0004569
2010-04-22 03:58	Leperous	Note Edited: 0004569	View Revisions
2010-04-22 04:11	Jiri Petru	Note Added: 0004572
2010-04-22 04:13	Jiri Petru	Note Edited: 0004572	View Revisions
2010-04-22 05:13	Proteus	Note Added: 0004575
2010-04-22 08:21	Proteus	Note Edited: 0004575	View Revisions
2010-04-28 01:15	Meta	Note Added: 0005486
2010-05-01 12:11	Kumquat	Note Added: 0005835
2010-06-19 14:47	Logical2u	Relationship added	has duplicate 0002382
2010-06-30 01:10	ChickenLips	Note Added: 0009354
2010-06-30 01:13	ChickenLips	Note Edited: 0009354	View Revisions
2010-06-30 05:22	slink	Note Added: 0009357
2011-11-08 23:40	Kogut	Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2011-11-08 23:40	Kogut	Issue Monitored: Kogut
2011-11-28 03:13	Kogut	Note Added: 0019048
2011-11-28 03:13	Kogut	Note Edited: 0019048	View Revisions
2011-11-29 09:49	Quietust	Note Added: 0019050
2014-07-13 17:43	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Fixed in 0.40.01?

Notes
(0002678) oliver (reporter) 2010-04-10 17:19	A save showing this (after the siege arrived) is at http://s3test.randomly.org/df/957/region6-aut-54_civilian-trolls.zip [^]

(0004569) Leperous (reporter) 2010-04-22 03:58 edited on: 2010-04-22 03:58	This is brilliant, I'm being attacked by a Troll Clerk and a Troll Surgeon.

(0004572) Jiri Petru (reporter) 2010-04-22 04:11 edited on: 2010-04-22 04:13	Isn't this a feature? (Well... perhaps troll shouldn't get some professions, like armorer and woodcuter, but I like that they can be woodcutters and fish dissectors. Adds a bit of flavour and tell you the're not just monsters, they're people too! :))

(0004575) Proteus (reporter) 2010-04-22 05:13 edited on: 2010-04-22 08:21	I would only call it a bug if the troll medic suddenly, after they had beaten you half dead, would carry you to a hospital zone and treat your wounds :D

(0005486) Meta (reporter) 2010-04-28 01:15	I also got this bug with v0.31.03. I uploaded a movie of it : http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-2146-bug03103invadingtrollswithprofession [^]

(0005835) Kumquat (reporter) 2010-05-01 12:11	Same thing happens (happened?) with tamed tigermen brought by elf caravans.

(0009354) ChickenLips (reporter) 2010-06-30 01:10 edited on: 2010-06-30 01:13	I also am noticing that in statues and kill lists they're being shown a bit oddly (I presume the same would go for engravings and figurines, though I haven't seen one show up yet). In kill lists, each one is listed as "the Troll" (which is itself merely verbally awkward in that context, but indicative of something a bit off overall). In a statue made recently, it was as follows: +gabbro statue+ This is a superior quality gabbro statue. The item is a superiorly designed image of the troll and "Selena" Pagedpelts the White Jaw of Seals in gabbro by "Flask" Avuzam. Is making a plaintive gesture. "Selena" Pagedpelts the White Jaw of Seals is striking a menacing pose. The artwork relates to the mortal wounding of the troll by the dwarf "Selena" Pagedpelts the White Jaw of Seals with a steel battle axe in Blackspire in the midspring of 1057 during Kok Snos' "The Assault of Rampage." Really cool statue, but clearly it's hitting something of a hitch with trolls in this regard. (Just in case it comes up in mind, the "Is making a plaintive gesture." part is not a transcribing mistake on my part -- that is indeed how it shows up in-game.)

(0009357) slink (reporter) 2010-06-30 05:22	They don't have any proper names. That happens if you don't give them the CAN_SPEAK token in the raws. The problem is that if you give them the CAN_SPEAK token, then they send caravans to trade with you unless you make them either thieves (like kobolds) or child-snatchers (like goblins). This happened also in 40d.

(0019048) Kogut (reporter) 2011-11-28 03:13 edited on: 2011-11-28 03:13	"Is <foo>ing <foo>." descriptions are reported as 0004971

(0019050) Quietust (reporter) 2011-11-29 09:49	Kogut: however, invading trolls no longer generate "Is <foo>ing <foo>." events because they all have names as of version 0.31.