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0000957Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Invasionspublic2010-04-10 17:162014-07-13 17:43
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PrioritylowSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Platformnative WindowsOSWindows XPOS VersionSP3
Product Version0.31.02 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000957: Invading trolls arrive with civilian professions
DescriptionI had a goblin siege arrive which had a group of trolls.

Some of the trolls are just plain "Troll"s, but I also see:

* Troll Blacksmith
* Troll Craftsman
* Troll Bone Carver
* Troll Fisherman
* Troll Bone Doctor

which seems a little odd. Presumably they are being named based on skills, as goblins are - but why are they getting civilian skills?
TagsFixed in 0.40.01?, Intentional/Expected?
Attached Files

- Relationships
has duplicate 0002382resolvedLogical2u Trolls in sieges listed as civilian professions 

-  Notes
oliver (reporter)
2010-04-10 17:19

A save showing this (after the siege arrived) is at [^]
Leperous (reporter)
2010-04-22 03:58
edited on: 2010-04-22 03:58

This is brilliant, I'm being attacked by a Troll Clerk and a Troll Surgeon.

Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-04-22 04:11
edited on: 2010-04-22 04:13

Isn't this a feature?

(Well... perhaps troll shouldn't get some professions, like armorer and woodcuter, but I like that they can be woodcutters and fish dissectors. Adds a bit of flavour and tell you the're not just monsters, they're people too! :))

Proteus (reporter)
2010-04-22 05:13
edited on: 2010-04-22 08:21

I would only call it a bug if the troll medic suddenly,
after they had beaten you half dead, would carry you to a hospital zone and treat your wounds


Meta (reporter)
2010-04-28 01:15

I also got this bug with v0.31.03.
I uploaded a movie of it : [^]
Kumquat (reporter)
2010-05-01 12:11

Same thing happens (happened?) with tamed tigermen brought by elf caravans.
ChickenLips (reporter)
2010-06-30 01:10
edited on: 2010-06-30 01:13

I also am noticing that in statues and kill lists they're being shown a bit oddly (I presume the same would go for engravings and figurines, though I haven't seen one show up yet). In kill lists, each one is listed as "the Troll" (which is itself merely verbally awkward in that context, but indicative of something a bit off overall). In a statue made recently, it was as follows:

+gabbro statue+

This is a superior quality gabbro statue.
The item is a superiorly designed image of the troll and "Selena" Pagedpelts the White Jaw of Seals in gabbro by "Flask" Avuzam. Is making a plaintive gesture. "Selena" Pagedpelts the White Jaw of Seals is striking a menacing pose. The artwork relates to the mortal wounding of the troll by the dwarf "Selena" Pagedpelts the White Jaw of Seals with a steel battle axe in Blackspire in the midspring of 1057 during Kok Snos' "The Assault of Rampage."

Really cool statue, but clearly it's hitting something of a hitch with trolls in this regard. (Just in case it comes up in mind, the "Is making a plaintive gesture." part is not a transcribing mistake on my part -- that is indeed how it shows up in-game.)

slink (reporter)
2010-06-30 05:22

They don't have any proper names. That happens if you don't give them the CAN_SPEAK token in the raws. The problem is that if you give them the CAN_SPEAK token, then they send caravans to trade with you unless you make them either thieves (like kobolds) or child-snatchers (like goblins). This happened also in 40d.
Kogut (reporter)
2011-11-28 03:13
edited on: 2011-11-28 03:13

"Is <foo>ing <foo>." descriptions are reported as 0004971

Quietust (reporter)
2011-11-29 09:49

Kogut: however, invading trolls no longer generate "Is <foo>ing <foo>." events because they all have names as of version 0.31.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-10 17:16 oliver New Issue
2010-04-10 17:19 oliver Note Added: 0002678
2010-04-22 03:58 Leperous Note Added: 0004569
2010-04-22 03:58 Leperous Note Edited: 0004569 View Revisions
2010-04-22 04:11 Jiri Petru Note Added: 0004572
2010-04-22 04:13 Jiri Petru Note Edited: 0004572 View Revisions
2010-04-22 05:13 Proteus Note Added: 0004575
2010-04-22 08:21 Proteus Note Edited: 0004575 View Revisions
2010-04-28 01:15 Meta Note Added: 0005486
2010-05-01 12:11 Kumquat Note Added: 0005835
2010-06-19 14:47 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0002382
2010-06-30 01:10 ChickenLips Note Added: 0009354
2010-06-30 01:13 ChickenLips Note Edited: 0009354 View Revisions
2010-06-30 05:22 slink Note Added: 0009357
2011-11-08 23:40 Kogut Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2011-11-08 23:40 Kogut Issue Monitored: Kogut
2011-11-28 03:13 Kogut Note Added: 0019048
2011-11-28 03:13 Kogut Note Edited: 0019048 View Revisions
2011-11-29 09:49 Quietust Note Added: 0019050
2014-07-13 17:43 Footkerchief Tag Attached: Fixed in 0.40.01?

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