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0000141Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Noblespublic2010-04-02 09:062012-07-22 15:50
Toady One 
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0000141: After death of expedition leader or mayor (any noble), positions disappear from nobles screen and can't be appointed or replaced
Had one dwarf appointed to expedition leader, militia commander, broker
He died (drowned), and the positions are just completely gone from the nobles screen.
Appoint dwarf, kill him.
As per Telarin's comments at 0002232, you may continue to experience this bug in 0.31.05+ if you have old mayors hanging around. Killing them should fix the problem.
dead, noble
related to 0000576confirmed Footkerchief Diplomat "Leaves Unhappily" if expedition leader dies 
parent of 0000411closed Toady One Injury of mayor removes position from noble screen 
has duplicate 0000174closed Footkerchief Blank Noble List 
has duplicate 0000220closed Footkerchief Missing Nobles 
has duplicate 0000271closed Footkerchief No administrative positions, except for militia commander 
has duplicate 0000333closed Footkerchief Dead adminstrator's don't come back. 
has duplicate 0000492closed Footkerchief Noble jobs completely disappear after entire fort is entirely recruited and nearly killed 
has duplicate 0000638closed Footkerchief Nobles' positions vanish 
has duplicate 0000653closed Footkerchief Cannot Replace Bookkeeper 
has duplicate 0000898closed Footkerchief 0.31.02: Can't replace dead militia commander 
has duplicate 0001763closed Logical2u Broker died; now cannot replace 
has duplicate 0001787closed Footkerchief cannot replace dead noble office 
has duplicate 0001870closed Logical2u mayor getting jailed issues 
related to 0001038closed Toady One Former Mayor running around babbling results in mayor dissapearing from noble screen, inability to replace other nobles 
related to 0001755resolved Footkerchief After soldier dies, military/noble screens go blank, followed by crash 
related to 0002232resolved Footkerchief 0000141 not entirely resolved. Mayor not always replaced on death. 
related to 0002354resolved Logical2u Dead Captain of the Guard won't allow replacement 
related to 0004514resolved Footkerchief Dwarf disappears, listed as dead in units screen. 
related to 0004871resolved Footkerchief Blank Nobles Screen 
related to 0005299confirmed Footkerchief If fortress population drops to 1 child or insane dwarf, can't appoint/elect nobles when migrants arrive 
Issue History
2010-04-02 09:06unclejamNew Issue
2010-04-02 09:19unclejamIssue Monitored: unclejam
2010-04-02 09:23CorhalNote Added: 0000197
2010-04-02 11:57arcanerTag Attached: noble
2010-04-02 20:46NotABotanistIssue Monitored: NotABotanist
2010-04-03 11:00DoctorZuberNote Added: 0000582
2010-04-03 11:19FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000174
2010-04-03 11:19FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000220
2010-04-03 11:20FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000271
2010-04-03 11:22DoctorZuberNote Added: 0000596
2010-04-03 12:03unclejamNote Added: 0000614
2010-04-03 17:42FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000333
2010-04-03 17:42FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: Arnos
2010-04-03 18:42DoctorZuberNote Deleted: 0000582
2010-04-03 19:35axusNote Added: 0000750
2010-04-04 09:11unclejamNote Added: 0000873
2010-04-04 11:40DoctorZuberNote Added: 0000898
2010-04-04 13:20FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000411
2010-04-04 13:27Draco18sNote Added: 0000912
2010-04-04 13:47DoctorZuberNote Deleted: 0000898
2010-04-05 11:16FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000492
2010-04-05 12:48MooUKNote Added: 0001170
2010-04-05 13:25MooUKIssue Monitored: MooUK
2010-04-05 14:07MooUKNote Edited: 0001170bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0001170#r386
2010-04-05 15:08SymmetryNote Added: 0001222
2010-04-05 15:11DoctorZuberNote Added: 0001223
2010-04-05 15:14NagasshNote Added: 0001224
2010-04-06 05:20KodeTag Attached: dead
2010-04-06 05:38MooUKNote Added: 0001405
2010-04-06 10:52FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000638
2010-04-06 12:48FootkerchiefSticky IssueNo => Yes
2010-04-06 13:33FootkerchiefSummaryAppointed noble positions disappear upon apointees death => Positions disappear from nobles screen after expedition leader dies
2010-04-06 14:27SymmetryNote Added: 0001584
2010-04-06 14:31SymmetryIssue Monitored: Symmetry
2010-04-06 14:39FootkerchiefNote Added: 0001588
2010-04-06 15:01AshmoreNote Added: 0001596
2010-04-06 15:01DoctorZuberNote Added: 0001597
2010-04-06 17:58Trigger64Issue Monitored: Trigger64
2010-04-06 18:32FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000653
2010-04-07 00:06NimrodNote Added: 0001692
2010-04-07 04:49FootkerchiefSummaryPositions disappear from nobles screen after expedition leader dies => After death of expedition leader or mayor, positions disappear from nobles screen and can't be appointed
2010-04-07 07:33JusticeIssue Monitored: Justice
2010-04-07 14:44KelsaNote Added: 0001857
2010-04-07 15:05KelsaNote Edited: 0001857bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0001857#r557
2010-04-08 17:22c4rb0nd8rIssue Monitored: c4rb0nd8r
2010-04-08 17:23bloodystumpIssue Monitored: bloodystump
2010-04-08 17:24timferiusIssue Monitored: timferius
2010-04-08 17:45BruwinIssue Monitored: Bruwin
2010-04-08 18:10katyrnynIssue Monitored: katyrnyn
2010-04-08 18:15chuzzumIssue Monitored: chuzzum
2010-04-08 20:51ercdvsIssue Monitored: ercdvs
2010-04-08 21:17codeManJonesIssue Monitored: codeManJones
2010-04-08 21:27SeaBeeIssue Monitored: SeaBee
2010-04-08 22:16RutilantIssue Monitored: Rutilant
2010-04-08 23:42LumiIssue Monitored: Lumi
2010-04-08 23:47LumiIssue End Monitor: Lumi
2010-04-09 03:39Khym ChanurIssue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-04-09 08:48CaveLobsterShellIssue Monitored: CaveLobsterShell
2010-04-09 08:57jarvollIssue Monitored: jarvoll
2010-04-09 16:42FootkerchiefSummaryAfter death of expedition leader or mayor, positions disappear from nobles screen and can't be appointed => After death of expedition leader or mayor, positions disappear from nobles screen and can't be appointed or replaced
2010-04-09 17:02HunterZNote Added: 0002465
2010-04-09 17:40DoctorZuberNote Added: 0002472
2010-04-09 17:41DoctorZuberNote Edited: 0002472bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0002472#r795
2010-04-09 20:09garrieironsIssue Monitored: garrieirons
2010-04-10 09:36Kaelem GaenNote Added: 0002593
2010-04-10 11:14FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000898
2010-04-10 11:14FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-04-10 11:14FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: Felblood
2010-04-10 11:14FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: HunterZ
2010-04-11 07:56HunterZNote Added: 0002799
2010-04-11 11:15FootkerchiefNote Added: 0002842
2010-04-11 11:15FootkerchiefPrioritynormal => urgent
2010-04-11 14:06JumppNote Added: 0002877
2010-04-11 15:14MaDeR LevapIssue Monitored: MaDeR Levap
2010-04-11 15:37FootkerchiefIssue End Monitor: Footkerchief
2010-04-11 23:47maanahrNote Added: 0002993
2010-04-11 23:58ShadowlordIssue Monitored: Shadowlord
2010-04-12 01:52FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001038
2010-04-12 01:52FootkerchiefRelationship replacedparent of 0000411
2010-04-13 01:22drunkenIssue Monitored: drunken
2010-04-13 09:21JinalealiaIssue Monitored: Jinalealia
2010-04-13 10:11thvazTag Attached: Not a bug
2010-04-13 10:14thvazNote Added: 0003282
2010-04-13 10:55thvazIssue Monitored: thvaz
2010-04-13 12:12SirPenguinNote Added: 0003309
2010-04-13 15:59tceiNote Added: 0003339
2010-04-13 16:00tceiIssue Monitored: tcei
2010-04-13 17:44Marco PogoIssue Monitored: Marco Pogo
2010-04-13 21:26user891Note Added: 0003394
2010-04-14 00:06FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000576
2010-04-14 05:47thvazTag Detached: Not a bug
2010-04-14 07:13kendoIssue Monitored: kendo
2010-04-14 16:04ArnosNote Added: 0003567
2010-04-14 16:12simrobertIssue Monitored: simrobert
2010-04-14 16:30tceiNote Added: 0003575
2010-04-14 19:57user891Note Added: 0003598
2010-04-15 10:17JustAnotherFoolNote Added: 0003710
2010-04-15 10:20toybasherNote Added: 0003711
2010-04-15 10:27SirPenguinNote Added: 0003717
2010-04-15 10:33smjjamesNote Added: 0003719
2010-04-15 13:01JustAnotherFoolIssue Monitored: JustAnotherFool
2010-04-15 13:32DDRNote Added: 0003747
2010-04-15 23:14drunkenNote Added: 0003806
2010-04-18 11:05ArnosNote Added: 0004067
2010-04-18 12:37tceiNote Added: 0004091
2010-04-18 15:26maximusfiveIssue Monitored: maximusfive
2010-04-18 15:30rdwulfeIssue Monitored: rdwulfe
2010-04-18 19:44clamityIssue Monitored: clamity
2010-04-18 23:35ra2phoenixIssue Monitored: ra2phoenix
2010-04-19 05:16yarrrrIssue Monitored: yarrrr
2010-04-19 14:44KelsaNote Added: 0004268
2010-04-19 15:25DewarIssue Monitored: Dewar
2010-04-19 15:25DewarTag Attached: soap
2010-04-19 15:25DewarTag Detached: soap
2010-04-21 07:08bencoNote Added: 0004441
2010-04-21 07:08bencoIssue Monitored: benco
2010-04-21 12:01FootkerchiefCategoryGeneral => Dwarf Mode -- Nobles
2010-04-21 12:15teetheringNote Added: 0004487
2010-04-21 15:21Jiri PetruNote Added: 0004512
2010-04-21 15:29Jiri PetruNote Edited: 0004512bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0004512#r1534
2010-04-25 13:56calcrafoordNote Added: 0005032
2010-04-25 13:58calcrafoordIssue Monitored: calcrafoord
2010-04-28 11:23toybasherNote Added: 0005556
2010-04-28 11:56smjjamesIssue Monitored: smjjames
2010-04-28 12:52FootkerchiefNote Added: 0005566
2010-04-28 12:52FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0005566bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0005566#r2040
2010-04-28 12:54FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0005566bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0005566#r2041
2010-04-28 12:54FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0005566bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0005566#r2042
2010-05-04 03:02Dave MongooseNote Added: 0006081
2010-05-04 03:03Dave MongooseNote Edited: 0006081bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0006081#r2268
2010-05-04 03:10Dave MongooseNote Edited: 0006081bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0006081#r2269
2010-05-04 07:08Dave MongooseNote Edited: 0006081bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0006081#r2272
2010-05-05 13:26FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0001755
2010-05-05 15:46Logical2uRelationship addedhas duplicate 0001763
2010-05-05 15:46Logical2uIssue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-05-05 15:47Logical2uSummaryAfter death of expedition leader or mayor, positions disappear from nobles screen and can't be appointed or replaced => After death of expedition leader or mayor (any noble), positions disappear from nobles screen and can't be appointed or replaced
2010-05-06 14:16FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0001787
2010-05-07 07:29tuorssonIssue Monitored: tuorsson
2010-05-07 07:29tuorssonIssue End Monitor: tuorsson
2010-05-08 15:19FyrestormIssue Monitored: Fyrestorm
2010-05-12 08:50StyledatolNote Added: 0006589
2010-05-12 08:51StyledatolNote Edited: 0006589bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0006589#r2453
2010-05-12 08:52StyledatolNote Edited: 0006589bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0006589#r2454
2010-05-13 08:41FyrestormIssue End Monitor: Fyrestorm
2010-05-14 05:22Logical2uRelationship addedhas duplicate 0001870
2010-05-20 19:19MauruIssue Monitored: Mauru
2010-05-21 00:46EdurenIssue Monitored: Eduren
2010-05-22 01:32FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0000576
2010-05-22 18:20dark0153Note Added: 0007208
2010-06-02 02:08Toady OneRelationship replacedrelated to 0001038
2010-06-02 02:09Toady OneNote Added: 0007564
2010-06-02 02:10Toady OneStatusnew => resolved
2010-06-02 02:10Toady OneFixed in Version => 0.31.05
2010-06-02 02:10Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2010-06-02 02:10Toady OneAssigned To => Toady One
2010-06-02 12:38bloodystumpIssue End Monitor: bloodystump
2010-06-02 13:07FootkerchiefSticky IssueYes => No
2010-06-04 13:28Khym ChanurIssue End Monitor: Khym Chanur
2010-06-04 15:41JustAnotherFoolIssue End Monitor: JustAnotherFool
2010-06-04 17:30FelbloodIssue End Monitor: Felblood
2010-06-07 23:22maximusfiveIssue End Monitor: maximusfive
2010-06-09 06:45Toady OneStatusresolved => closed
2010-06-09 15:50FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002232
2010-06-16 11:40FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002354
2010-06-24 09:10FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009048
2010-06-24 09:10FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0009048bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0009048#r3463
2010-06-24 09:10FootkerchiefAdditional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=3465#r3465
2011-04-13 14:20FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0004514
2012-01-06 22:34DwarfuRelationship addedrelated to 0004871
2012-02-19 07:51FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0005299
2012-07-22 15:50slamIssue Monitored: slam
2012-07-23 02:09Knight OtuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0006122
2012-07-23 02:13Knight OtuRelationship deletedhas duplicate 0006122

2010-04-02 09:23   
I can confirm that problem.
2010-04-03 11:22   
2010-04-03 10:03
I'm cross-threading this here to keep this information on the open thread.

I don't know about an expedition leader getting reappointed.

I do know that when the expedition leader dies, ALL appointed nobles go poof.

expedition leader
- military commander
- sheriff
- manager
- chief medical dwarf
- broker
- bookkeeper

all go poof because expedition leader dies. nobles screen is BLANK!
2010-04-03 12:03   
I think it deletes unappointed positions and those that the expedition leader also assumes.

I still have two positions left on my screen, that I appointed to other dwarfs. However, the replace button is greyed out and not functional anymore.

They have not reappeared yet.
2010-04-03 19:35   
Save and reload fixed it a little bit for me. I thought it was a feature, because my militia captains who died in battle were still on the list. I just removed em, but their old squads are vacant still and won't go away :)
2010-04-04 09:11   
Just noticed that the noble icon on the 'z' screen is gone as well.
2010-04-04 13:27   
> I do know that when the expedition leader dies, ALL appointed nobles go poof.

Verified. The only noble I have left is the broker because that one was assigned to a different dwarf.
2010-04-05 12:48   
(edited on: 2010-04-05 14:07)
Same here; leader tantrumed (and picked on a woodcutter with a nice shiny bronze axe; he promptly ended up in three pieces on the floor), died, now I have no way of appointing nobles.

Does a replacement leader get chosen eventually, or am I entirely doomed?

EDIT: Answering my own question: there doesn't appear to be any replacement. I've waited three seasons. Since I have no doctor, militia commander, broker, etc I'm fairly limited as to what I can do.

2010-04-05 15:08   
After losing a fort and reclaiming I had no nobles. But, once I started a new fort in a newly generated region that fort had no nobles either. I hadn't restarted DF, so I tried saving the new fort and restarting DF then reloading. But that still gave me no nobles.

Creating a new region after a restart did give me a fort with nobles, I've not tested creating a new fort in one of the old regions after a restart and the saves are deleted now so I can't.
2010-04-05 15:11   
keep that save file Symmetry. They might want it.
2010-04-05 15:14   
I've had this problem occur, I also had no arsenal dwarf available at any time during the fort despite 80+ population.

The noble screen eventually returned despite nothing related to nobles (as best as i can tell) occurring at the time.
2010-04-06 05:38   
Starting a new fort in the same region after restarting DF wasn't a problem here.
2010-04-06 14:27   
I've retrieved the saves from the recycle bin, I'll keep them safe in case someone wants them.
2010-04-06 14:39   
I don't think the save file will be needed -- this one sounds pretty consistent. Won't hurt to keep it around though.
2010-04-06 15:01   
There seems to be a variation in the affected positions. I had a mayor/broker drop dead, and lost control of her positions along with the slot for caption of the guard, which was vacant at the time. All other positions (manager, bookkeeper, arsenal, militia commander and chief medical dwarf) remained as they were, with the appointed dwarves still in place. The vacant slot for militia captain remained as well.

I wonder if the affected positions have something to do with the "appointed by" column seen in the table on the wiki: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Noble [^]

I reached 50+ dwarves not long before this happened and all remaining positions were filled before that – so, maybe they were unaffected because the Expedition Leader had been upgraded to Mayor? Maybe there's a connection that gets lost as the title changes.
2010-04-06 15:01   
the reason I said to hold the save file is he's saying his nobles were missing at embark, which is slightly different.
2010-04-07 00:06   

My mayor died after going insane (no shells - because of the no fish bug dammit) - after that the noble screen doesn't show the mayor position anymore (even though a new mayor is obviously appointed, as I see him running around).
Its also not possible anymore to replace the other noble positions.
2010-04-07 14:44   
(edited on: 2010-04-07 15:05)
I have also had this issue... I had the Expedition Leader set to most of the positions but a separate Chief Medical Dwarf and Militia Commander. All three dwarves died and now the only position listed is Militia Commander, listing the last dwarf to hold the position, even though he's dead.

Also I noted that while you cannot assign a new Bookkeeper, the stocks are all appear to be up to date at the last level of precision which the bookkeeper obtained before death

2010-04-09 17:02   
I didn't have my expedition leader assigned to any other roles, but when most of my dwarves got killed all of my noble positions other than militia commander/captain disappeared.
2010-04-09 17:40   
(edited on: 2010-04-09 17:41)
workaround for squad commanders...

- (m) (l) Create a new squad
- put someone in position 1
- exit the screen
- (n) look at the nobles screen and wave at your commander

Still somewhat worthless if you're over population 20 and lose your arsenal captain though. But beats nothing.

Kaelem Gaen   
2010-04-10 09:36   
yeah I just lost my exp leader (and my manager, same dwarf..) and they poofed from the list.
2010-04-11 07:56   
Is there some way to bump up the priority of this issue in the tracker? It's kind of a game-breaker.
2010-04-11 11:15   
HunterZ: it's already stickied. I don't think Toady cares about the priority field because most of the issues have totally bogus priority settings, but I'll bump that up too.
2010-04-11 14:06   
Mayor got eaten by a gator. All the unfilled positions vanished. I saved and reloaded. After a few months a new mayor was elected and the missing positions were once again fillable.
2010-04-11 23:47   
A variation on the same bug; I had two mayors (bug 312),and the ex-mayor died.
I still have all the positions in the nobles screen, but don't get the option to replace any of them anymore, except the 3 vacant militia captain posts I had.
2010-04-13 10:14   
This is not a bug! You can't assign dwarves for positions while you have no mayor or expedition leader. When another is elected, the position return to the noble screen. I can confirm this - my mayor died in an ambush, and then the position remained, as all of them were occupied. then my chief medical dwarf died too, and the position was gone. Then I got another dwarf elected mayor, and I could assign a new chief medical dwarf.

Not a bug, close this.
2010-04-13 12:12   
I disagree, it's still a bug. The fact that the positions disappear might not be a bug, but there is no way to get a new expedition leader. You need at least 50 dwarves to get that mayor.

If your expedition leader dies early on it becomes almost impossible to ever recover without nobles. Past 20 dwarves you *cannot* equip your military without an arsenal dwarf, meaning your military will be entirely useless. No broker, no bookkeeper, no manager. Trade liaisons IMMEDIATELY leave because they have no one to meet with.

It's obviously possible to simple wait a couple of years and hope that you get 50 migrants, but you'd be completely stunted before then

That CANNOT be intended. A quick and intelligent fix is to simply make the expedition leader electable so that upon his death a new one can take his place.
2010-04-13 15:59   
I had the same happen to me after my baroness (who was also the mayor and broker) died during a siege. Oddly enough a new mayor was appointed but doesn't show up on the noble screen. Mostly what I need right now is a new broker so I can trade.
2010-04-13 21:26   
Once it's possible to get a mayor, the dwarves will keep electing mayors even if your population drops below 50. (A tantrum spiral reduced my population to 20, then they elected a new mayor)
2010-04-14 16:04   
This is a major issue for me, I've stopped playing for fear of any of my leaders dying and breaking the game until this is fixed.
2010-04-14 16:30   
On the plus side I can still trade with caravans, as long as I have it set to anyone may trade, however I cannot request things from the diplomats (the leave unhappy as soon as they enter) or see the value of things. :(

It also appears that when this happened that a dwarf was randomly selected to become Captian of the Guard, I didnt really notice this until I had a dwarf get the poo beaten outa him for failing to fill a mandate.

Also as stated above I cannot replace any of my nobles, at least not those that were nobles before these deaths.
2010-04-14 19:57   
I think this leads to the two mayors bug!
2010-04-15 10:17   
Happens to me in every game I start, not much point in playing until this is fixed...
2010-04-15 10:20   
Aye this hasnt happened to me yet, but it looks like a pain in the *** when it will. (Curse you goblin seiges!)
2010-04-15 10:27   
Argh. I had a fort of 49 dwarves (literally...) that was wiped down to a handful. The lack of being able to use nobles is absolutely crippling
2010-04-15 10:33   
Theres a good possibility that this is linked to or is even causing the bug where the liason is not getting replaced.
2010-04-15 13:32   
The bug is really, really, very, quite, extremely, absolutely annoying. That said, I can't go back to #40d... this new one is just too interesting!
2010-04-15 23:14   

I have confirmed that if the mayor dies and a new one is re-elected all the positions reappear. I have not been able to confirm that this will happen for expedition leaders. If you change the line in the entity_default.txt raw file under mayor from [REQUIRES_POPULATION:50] to [REQUIRES_POPULATION:1] you should be guaranteed to have a mayor at all times and therefore only suffer a season or so downtime until the positions become available again.

I haven't tested this yet so if anyone does this and the raw change doesn't work as expected please post a seperate bug report about the raws not working. If expeditions leaders do in fact also get re-elected then make a note of that here.
2010-04-18 11:05   
Does that raw change require a world Regen to take effect?
2010-04-18 12:37   
After my mayor/baroness died a new mayor was elected (who was by chance my Chief Medi dwarf. But the position of Mayor and a few others never returned on the screen. :(
Had my dwarves survived the hammer gob ambush I may have done some expermenting to see if I could get all these missing positions back.
2010-04-19 14:44   
This bug also appears if your expedition leader goes insane.
2010-04-21 07:08   
Still exists. I had a dragon break into my fort, my chief medical dwarf died, and now the noble position is gone, as well as the Health tab on status screen. Which sucks, cause most of my guys are injured and need first aid in some way.
2010-04-21 12:15   
I also had a dragon incident which killed my mayor/broker. It also apparently destroyed my trade depot, which I didn't notice at first and kept waiting for my new mayor to get elected so I can appoint the broker. When I finally noticed it and rebuilt it the mayor got elected and the broker position got opened up.

I don't know if that's just a coincidence, but in either case somehow the game recovered from losing nobles.
Jiri Petru   
2010-04-21 15:21   
(edited on: 2010-04-21 15:29)
My mayor just went berkerk and I hat to put him down. I've noticed:
- he doesn't get buried
- he's not listed along with other deceased in the unit list

I dont know if this isn't issue with berserks, but I suppose it most likely fits here. Also, I didn't open a new report, because it feels like a symptom of this problem.

EDIT: Correction, he did get buried after a while, yet he's still not listed amongst the deceased.

2010-04-25 13:56   
My leader died pretty early on and I've got this problem. Would a save help?
2010-04-28 11:23   
Jiri, Beserk dofs are considered an enemy to your civilization, that way he can set off traps and you can attack him, Makes sense for him to not b ein the units screen.
2010-04-28 12:52   
(edited on: 2010-04-28 12:54)
^^^ No it doesn't. Enemies and wild animals, living or deceased, show up in the unit screen.

Jiri: there was a report (0001156) that a dwarf who died while berserk WAS listed, but grouped in with the wild animals rather than with dwarves. You might want to crosspost your info on that report.

Dave Mongoose   
2010-05-04 03:02   
(edited on: 2010-05-04 07:08)
*** Temporary Fix ***

- Edit the file 'entity_default.txt' in the 'raw\objects\' directory
- Go down five lines to '[RULES_FROM_LOCATION]'
- Add a line after this that says '[ELECTED]'.

If your expedition leader dies, your dwarves should elect a new leader at the next season change.

Unfortunately this needs you to gen a new world, so you can't use it to fix an existing fort.

2010-05-12 08:50   
(edited on: 2010-05-12 08:52)
Reaching a population of 50 after the bug occurs did not fix the problem for me.
Expedition Leader /Broker drowned while running away from a trog - took me 2 years to get pop to 50, but no mayor was elected, no nobles showed up.

It seems that deaths 'toggle' the bug: Accidently dug into hell on year three, when dwarves started dying (no militia commander/captain, just random dwarves) all the positions reappeared in the 'n' screen, vacant of course.
About 20 deaths later, the positions vanished again. Didn't check the effect of following deaths though.

2010-05-22 18:20   
Using the raw editing posted by Dave Mongoose should save a existing fort if you edit \data\save\region x\raw\objects\entity_default.txt and then reload that save

might require [COMPRESSED_SAVES:NO] in init.txt
Toady One   
2010-06-02 02:09   
This should be resolved for 0.31.05. They'll immediately choose a successor now.
2010-06-24 09:10   
As per Telarin's comments at 0002232, you may continue to experience this bug in 0.31.05+ if you have old mayors hanging around. Killing them should fix the problem.