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0000309Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcarepublic2010-04-03 14:322014-11-25 22:58
Greyhawk 
Dwarfu 
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0.31.01 
 
0000309: Injured dwarves won't/can't rest
Shoulders, false rib and heart red (compound fractures). The health screen says one wound needs setting.

The dwarf stopped resting after the diagnosis and never visited the newly built hospital.
1. Miner falls, get red wounds and unconscious
2. No hospital yet, so another dwarf brings the miner to dormitory.
3. Assign the chief medical role on noble screen (novice at most med skills).
4. Wait for diagnosis, injured dwarf will get up afterword.
5. Check health of injured dwarf. Status page shows wounds and the need for setting the wound. The first page says no injuries though!
6. Build hospital, put in that special table, normal tables/cabinets/chests/bags/beds and the dwarves deliver all but powder and soap (had powder but bugged like in 0000194).
7. Injured Dwarf continues working while flashing the injured state. After a month still hasn't visited hospital.
healthcare
parent of 0001494new  injured dwarf 'cannot stand' too tough to rest but can't move. 
parent of 0000165resolved Footkerchief Dwarves in hospital beds "fall out" and stay on the ground. 
parent of 0002515resolved Footkerchief Injured dwarf goes on break, is no longer being treated during or afterwards 
parent of 0001941new  Unconcious dwarf in hospital has "soldier" as status and isn't being healed 
parent of 0002585acknowledged Dwarfu Injured soldiers stop resting when alert state changes 
parent of 0002930acknowledged Dwarfu Dwarf is Unwilling to die, or get better. 
parent of 0002968new  Dwarf recovery problems and dwarves leaving hospital to handle their needs personally, cancelling care 
parent of 0003490new  wounded dwarfes will continue to work, even when treatment is assigned 
has duplicate 0002314resolved Footkerchief Dwarf with broken finger and nose not requiring a diagnosis at all 
has duplicate 0001077resolved Footkerchief Extremely wounded dwarf won't stay in bed 
has duplicate 0002911resolved Footkerchief Injured dwarf never gets treatment assigned 
has duplicate 0003631resolved Footkerchief Seriously Injured Dwarf in Hospital decides to 'Get Provisions'; thereafter acts uninjured 
related to 0000306resolved Toady One Injured soldier tries to pick up equipment with broken arms- message spam 
related to 0002080new  Beaten dwarf ignores wounds 
related to 0002747resolved Toady One A dwarf unable to stand manages to get up when in a strange mood 
related to 0000681resolved Toady One Legless/footless dwarfs are ignored by healthcare 
related to 0002816resolved Toady One Dwarves on operating table count as out of bed, trigger recover wounded job 
related to 0003403acknowledged Dwarfu Dwarf 1 injured by tantrumming military dwarf 2 does not receive any healthcare 
related to 0001955acknowledged Dwarfu dwarves rest outside of the hospital zone 
related to 0006344acknowledged Dwarfu Dwarf never sought healthcare 
related to 0006102acknowledged Dwarfu Injured military dwarves won't seek treatment, die 
related to 0001226acknowledged Dwarfu Removing hospital zone and bed makes dwarves stop trying to rest 
related to 0004498confirmed Footkerchief Dwarves with lingering medical problems 
Not all the children of this issue are yet resolved or closed.
Issue History
2010-04-03 14:32GreyhawkNew Issue
2010-04-03 14:32GreyhawkTag Attached: healthcare
2010-04-03 14:32GreyhawkIssue Monitored: Greyhawk
2010-04-04 13:47FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000306
2010-04-13 09:21FootkerchiefRelationship replacedchild of 0000306
2010-04-16 14:00Jiri PetruNote Added: 0003898
2010-04-16 14:02Jiri PetruNote Edited: 0003898bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0003898#r1300
2010-04-16 14:02Jiri PetruNote Edited: 0003898bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0003898#r1301
2010-04-24 16:23DarthCloakedDwarfNote Added: 0004928
2010-04-24 16:30HugnaNote Added: 0004930
2010-04-25 10:21xomgNote Added: 0005008
2010-04-25 10:26xomgNote Deleted: 0005008
2010-04-25 10:29axusNote Added: 0005009
2010-04-28 01:50CromageNote Added: 0005492
2010-05-09 07:40CultOftheRavenNote Added: 0006447
2010-05-10 14:24gruftschreckNote Added: 0006515
2010-05-11 11:17gruftschreckNote Added: 0006553
2010-05-16 05:57derigoNote Added: 0006762
2010-05-16 22:37derigoNote Added: 0006851
2010-06-13 18:18FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002314
2010-07-07 15:42FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002080
2010-07-07 15:42FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0000306
2010-07-07 15:43FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001077
2010-07-07 15:43FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001494
2010-07-07 15:43FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000165
2010-07-07 15:43FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002515
2010-07-07 15:44FootkerchiefSticky IssueNo => Yes
2010-07-07 15:44FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001941
2010-07-07 15:45FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002585
2010-07-15 12:39JimboOmegaNote Added: 0010365
2010-07-15 12:40JimboOmegaIssue Monitored: JimboOmega
2010-07-15 12:58JimboOmegaNote Edited: 0010365bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0010365#r4028
2010-07-18 08:51FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002747
2010-07-23 10:32Orkel2Note Added: 0010876
2010-07-24 13:26YorickTag Attached: gypsum
2010-07-24 13:26YorickTag Detached: gypsum
2010-07-24 19:23Khym ChanurIssue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-08-01 00:11FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002911
2010-08-01 00:11FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: novaalpha
2010-08-02 09:58E1727Note Added: 0011403
2010-08-02 13:02FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002930
2010-08-03 09:43FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000681
2010-08-07 01:29FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002968
2010-08-09 07:22FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002816
2010-08-13 12:31toybasherNote Added: 0011767
2010-09-19 15:14troasNote Added: 0012825
2010-09-20 19:36troasIssue Monitored: troas
2010-09-21 19:25xellas84Note Added: 0012875
2010-10-31 17:49Logical2uRelationship addedparent of 0003490
2010-11-01 08:01wRARIssue Monitored: wRAR
2010-11-14 01:11novaalphaIssue End Monitor: novaalpha
2010-11-15 13:57FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0003631
2010-11-16 13:38FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0003403
2010-11-16 16:50InsanityPreludeNote Added: 0013940
2010-11-17 18:04InsanityPreludeIssue Monitored: InsanityPrelude
2010-11-22 22:46nordakNote Added: 0014158
2011-02-28 21:17FootkerchiefNote Added: 0015616
2011-02-28 21:18FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0001077
2011-02-28 21:21FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0001955
2011-09-29 18:10ZzarkLinuxNote Added: 0018765
2012-03-05 08:38FootkerchiefSummary4 red wounds (inc heart) and after diagnosis the injured dwarf gets back up and works with no problems. => Injured dwarves won't/can't rest
2012-03-05 09:08FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0003403
2012-03-27 03:59StebIssue Monitored: Steb
2012-04-02 06:50KogutNote Added: 0022026
2012-04-02 06:55KogutNote Edited: 0022026bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0022026#r8192
2012-04-02 06:56KogutNote Edited: 0022026bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0022026#r8193
2013-06-24 04:51Knight OtuRelationship addedrelated to 0006344
2014-01-26 10:18FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0006102
2014-01-27 20:02FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0001226
2014-08-09 12:06DwarfuAssigned To => Dwarfu
2014-08-09 12:06DwarfuStatusnew => confirmed
2014-08-27 14:244maskwolfIssue Monitored: 4maskwolf
2014-11-25 22:58InsanityPreludeIssue End Monitor: InsanityPrelude
2014-12-27 19:38FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0004498

Notes
(0003898)
Jiri Petru   
2010-04-16 14:00   
(edited on: 2010-04-16 14:02)
Seconding. I have a soldier with shattered left upper arm and elbow. His health screen says he needs surgery (amongst other things) on both places. Yet, after being diagnosed and perhaps cleaned, he just got up and went back to duty.

...and i THINK he's had a failed surgery that hasn't done anything.

(0004928)
DarthCloakedDwarf   
2010-04-24 16:23   
I have a dwarf that I refer to jokingly as Lefty. He can't use one of his arms, he is grasp impaired and flashing yellow, but he is happily going about his business with no issues.
(0004930)
Hugna   
2010-04-24 16:30   
The wiki actually said Hospital actions are bugged, so more than likely, it's known. I'm actually hoping it's fixed so i can keep a fort standing.
(0005009)
axus   
2010-04-25 10:29   
This might be an issue in addition to the doctors repeating work over and over. I'm seeing the same thing with a miner, he will get up and do some work with 4 red wounds. 2 of them need surgery, they all need a lot of work according to health screen. Later I will find him back in the hospital resting. The doctor tries to do things for him when he is in the hospital, but they fail due to the other bug.

The issue is... dwarves leaving the hospital when they've got serious injuries. People do this in real life (try to leave the hospital when it's medically very stupid), so I can't 100% call it a "bug", but it's probably not intentional.

I think when the repeat doctoring bug is fixed, there will still be dwarves that leave the hospital early only to come back later. But it might be OK, once the main bug is fixed eventually they will get patched up properly and not need to return to the hospital.
(0005492)
Cromage   
2010-04-28 01:50   
I noticed this too; I got a message that said "Surgeon cancels Surgery: Patient Not Resting" as well.
(0006447)
CultOftheRaven   
2010-05-09 07:40   
I have a soldier that got red injuries on his arm and leg, got the diagnosis, and then promptly went back to soldiering. 3 years later he's a legendary speardwarf, and functioning completely fine despite flashing red and supposedly requiring surgery. I have a hospital that seems to be working fine except for one or two other bugs, and I know it was working and I had doctors before the dwarf in question was injured.
(0006515)
gruftschreck   
2010-05-10 14:24   
Had the same bug too today. A dwarf had a smashed third toe and went to hospital, but he got out of hospital shortly afterwards, the message "Urist McMedicineDwarf cancels Surgery: Dwarf not resting" is being displayed from time to time.
(0006553)
gruftschreck   
2010-05-11 11:17   
more interesting to say the above mentioned dwarf gets back into hospital from time to time where the doctor fails with the surgery and then gets back up again afterwards. Can be reproduced at any time.
(0006762)
derigo   
2010-05-16 05:57   
I have a mason that was nearly killed in a cave in. His Both his legs, his right hip, both his arms, and his ear (?) are fractured. He got fed up with surgery, and went back to work building my pit-of-doom with the other masons. He is always "Faint" because his injuries are so severe.

On the other end of the spectrum I have a dwarf with a bruised foot that stays in bed 100% of the time. /sigh ;p
(0006851)
derigo   
2010-05-16 22:37   
Still seeing this in .04. What's more the patients this affects are still presenting the 'infinite surgery' bug that was supposed to be fixed.

This is an .03 save being played in .04. Patients lie there for a really long time with the surgeon sitting on their heads, after a while the patients get bored, get up and continue working despite debilitating injuries. Medical history shows no sign of surgery.
(0010365)
JimboOmega   
2010-07-15 12:39   
(edited on: 2010-07-15 12:58)
I have seen this in .10 No infinite surgery, but patients get very impatient with healthcare and march off, despite serious injuries. Some have been treated successfully, though, they tend to have less serious injuries.

I also have a child who was cleaned, and (perhaps because nobody had the labor enabled and/or there were plaster issues), stays in bed but is never treated and never heals.

Update: I was able to get them to lay down and be treated by removing all labors. Though one is stuck in a cancels clean self: location inaccessible loop.

(0010876)
Orkel2   
2010-07-23 10:32   
This happened to me in .11 just now. Patient has broken shoulder and ankle but walked off in the middle of suturing and hasn't gone back to the hospital.
(0011403)
E1727   
2010-08-02 09:58   
The two or three dwarves that have done this to me have all been "quick to heal" - and indeed, they went from red wounds to brown in a couple weeks of game time.

It's somewhat amusing that, due to the "patients never get crutches" bug, a "very quick to heal" dwarf with a mangled heart and an upper body and arms both beat to shit will be up and moving long before a "quick to heal" dwarf with a mere broken right leg.
(0011767)
toybasher   
2010-08-13 12:31   
COuld it be related to (0001534) ?

Most of these reports involve broken bones and joints
(0012825)
troas   
2010-09-19 15:14   
This is still happening in 31.12. Also I have several patients wounded after an ambush who are resting in the hospital but not being attended to (I have multiple medical dwarves with No Job), and others who have infections which also do not appear to be being diagnosed/treated. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3137 [^]
(0012875)
xellas84   
2010-09-21 19:25   
I saw this just today in 31.13. Had an unfortunate cavein incident, injured the miner I was training. Shattered his legs totally, both legs red, both hips red, knocked him unconscious for a good long time. I had a hospital up and running, with a CMD with all the skills enabled (as well as 2 dedicated doctors and a nurse), but NOBODY went to recover him. After a while, he came out of being unconscious, got up, and walked all the way to the hospital on his own.
(0013940)
InsanityPrelude   
2010-11-16 16:50   
In the midst of a fatal tantrum spiral in 3.16 recently, I noticed a couple dwarves with pop-outs laid there for a surprisingly long time without dying, even though the de facto doctors couldn't treat them because they either kept tantruming or being interrupted by other dwarves' tantrums, or insisted on stitching up dwarves with less serious injuries first.

Anyway, point is, you'd think with their guts hanging out (and dwarves walking over the tiles with ~s on them!) they wouldn't last for days like that.
(0014158)
nordak   
2010-11-22 22:46   
Same, dwarf had every bone broken, novice diagnose checked him and he just got up and went about his business as though nothing had hit him with a warhammer...

3.18

The joke is that the diagnostician had Legendary Bluff +5... Yea about those bones, they're fine... In fact they appear to be made of Adamantine.
(0015616)
Footkerchief   
2011-02-28 21:17   
duckthatquacks posted a save for a similar issue at 0001077:0010789:
Bugged save posted at http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2768 [^] The dwarf in question is Rakust Datanottem.
(0018765)
ZzarkLinux   
2011-09-29 18:10   
My hospital has been working well in v31.25, so maybe try to upgrade your version and see if you can reproduce.

Sometimes dwarves with yellow status don't wanna go to the hospital. But severely wounded dwarves seem to treat okay in 31.25
(0022026)
Kogut   
2012-04-02 06:50   
(edited on: 2012-04-02 06:56)
34.07: http://dffd.wimbli.com/submit.php?action=message&fid=6071 [^] dwarf ('Soldier' Alathumer) is marked as diagnosis required, diagnosis is not appearing in job list, CMD is sitting with "no job" as wounded dwarf is not resting

As bonus - the same dwarf is thirsty, no job is generated, plenty of idlers.

WORKAROUND: deconstruct bed below dwarf