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|0002831||Dwarf Fortress||Dwarf Mode -- Diplomacy||public||2010-07-25 11:39||2010-09-07 04:19|
|Assigned To||Toady One|
|Priority||normal||Severity||minor||Reproducibility||have not tried|
|Platform||SDL Version||OS||WinXP SP3||OS Version|
|Target Version||Fixed in Version||0.31.13|
|Summary||0002831: Human/elf diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue|
|Description||For the first time in 31.x I have gotten diplomats from the Elves and the Humans. I don't know yet what the Elven one had to say because he fairly quickly left unhappy, but the Human one said:|
"I am your liaison from the Mountainhomes. Let's discuss your situation."
edited on: 2010-07-25 11:46
This was followed by the usual comment about how you've carved a nice place out for yourself, then the conversation ended with
"I look forward to our meeting next year. Our fortunes rise and fall together."
Nothing is ever discussed about trade agreements.
Edit: Then he left via the caverns!?
|Are you sure the human liaison was actually from a human civ, and not a human who grew up in the dwarven civ? The fastest way to check might be to backup the save, abandon the fortress and look him/her up in Legends.|
Yes, I am certain. This is from the gamelog.
The human Engraver Nitho Gasinronik from Mong Wisho has arrived.
A human caravan from Mong Wisho has arrived.
Toady One (administrator)
|Yeah, they should use the regular diplomat script but they are using the dwarf one instead. They aren't trade representatives, so they just do the boring war/peace type stuff (as with the old human diplomat). The trade nobility for humans has not been reconstructed.|
|The elf diplomat I got today used the dwarven greeting but then went on to demand I limit my tree-cutting (on a map with no trees), so that part seems to be working.|
|I've experienced the same issue. The human and elf diplomats appear and start the dialogue with the usual dwarven greetings, but then act like you'd expect them to (the elf demands a limit of tree-cutting, the human commented on how it was a "nice little place you've carved out for yourself").|
|It should be noted that this only occurs for diplomats that arrive at the same time as the caravans - once you get a Baron, the Human civilization will send a real Diplomat (even labeled as a "diplomat" in the arrival announcement rather than with its profession) who will use the correct introduction ("Greetings, noble dwarf. There is much to discuss.") and parting text ("It has been an honor, noble [dwarfname]. I bid you farewell."). Of course, due to 0002892, that diplomat will never come back.|
Reminder sent to: Toady One
I stickied this one, only because you mentioned you'd fix it in this release:
It isn't a major deal, but people (especially new people) are confusing diplomats and liaisons.
Toady One (administrator)
|This should be handled for 0.31.13.|
|2010-07-25 11:39||slink||New Issue|
|2010-07-25 11:44||slink||Note Added: 0010994|
|2010-07-25 11:45||Footkerchief||Note Added: 0010995|
|2010-07-25 11:46||Footkerchief||Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE|
|2010-07-25 11:46||slink||Note Edited: 0010994||View Revisions|
|2010-07-25 11:47||slink||Note Added: 0010996|
|2010-07-25 11:52||Footkerchief||Summary||All Liaisons from Mountainhomes? => Human liaison/diplomat talks like he's from the Mountainhomes|
|2010-07-25 11:53||Footkerchief||Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE|
|2010-07-25 11:54||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0001102|
|2010-07-25 11:55||Footkerchief||Summary||Human liaison/diplomat talks like he's from the Mountainhomes => Human liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement|
|2010-07-25 14:48||Footkerchief||Summary||Human liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement => Human/elf liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement|
|2010-07-25 16:14||Toady One||Note Added: 0011027|
|2010-07-25 16:14||Toady One||Assigned To||=> Toady One|
|2010-07-25 16:14||Toady One||Status||new => acknowledged|
|2010-07-25 16:27||Footkerchief||Summary||Human/elf liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement => Human/elf diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue|
|2010-07-25 22:47||Footkerchief||Relationship added||has duplicate 0002848|
|2010-07-26 09:42||furiousfish||Note Added: 0011085|
|2010-08-05 18:32||HebaruSan||Issue Monitored: HebaruSan|
|2010-08-13 12:17||Volouscheur||Note Added: 0011765|
|2010-08-13 14:30||Dwarfu||Relationship added||has duplicate 0003019|
|2010-08-17 15:55||Dwarfu||Relationship added||has duplicate 0003055|
|2010-08-29 13:04||Logical2u||Relationship added||has duplicate 0003118|
|2010-08-29 14:54||Areyar||Tag Attached: liason|
|2010-08-29 14:54||Areyar||Tag Attached: dialogue|
|2010-08-29 15:04||Quietust||Note Added: 0012236|
|2010-09-06 08:43||Dwarfu||Sticky Issue||No => Yes|
|2010-09-06 08:46||Dwarfu||Note Added: 0012455|
|2010-09-07 02:46||Toady One||Note Added: 0012465|
|2010-09-07 02:46||Toady One||Status||acknowledged => resolved|
|2010-09-07 02:46||Toady One||Fixed in Version||=> 0.31.13|
|2010-09-07 02:46||Toady One||Resolution||open => fixed|
|2010-09-07 04:19||Dwarfu||Sticky Issue||Yes => No|
|2010-09-24 13:40||Logical2u||Relationship added||has duplicate 0003240|
|2010-11-06 08:53||Logical2u||Relationship added||has duplicate 0003366|
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