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|0000753||Dwarf Fortress||Dwarf Mode -- Trade||public||2010-04-07 16:57||2020-02-18 13:53|
|Target Version||Fixed in Version|
|Summary||0000753: Merchants bring barrels of blood and tears|
|Description||The first group of traders brought 10-20 barrels of blood.|
|Tags||blood, Intentional/Expected?, item, trade|
|And they're not supposed to?|
|how exactly is this a bug?|
|Bringing entire barrels full of blood does not exactly seem like intended behavior. Seriously, I don't think it's even useful.|
I don't think this is a bug. but you have a point. Why do they bring blood? Are we supposed to buy this blood? Why? What would we do with it? It doesn't seem to serve any function.
I suppose its no different than them bringing unusable plant extracts as trade goods. But then, that doesn't really make sense either.
|Barrels of cow blood: ok I can understand that. It's when they bring barrels filled with monarch butterfly ichor that I start to wonder.|
|Perhaps this will be a more useful feature down the line, when things like alchemy and magic are working and require reagents, so I would imagine it's intended.|
|Perhaps there was a vampire fort just down the road.|
Perhaps used for cooking? Its a valid item used in foodstuffs for a very long time in the real world.
That being said, I don't know if blood is marked properly as an edible / cooking enabled item, but the forum project to clean up the raws addresses this i think.
Same thing encountered here...
Klingon bloodwine anyone?:P
Maybe this can be worked into a feature by enabling kitchen/still to use blood(Some cuisine use (processed)blood for cooking, But I have no idea if blood has ever been used for alcohols in reality...)
If blood's ever going to be made into food...there are still bugs with cooking liquid AFAIK...
|If we had some way of removing the blood from the barrel we could make a blood bath or other "interesting" features but as it stands its just takeing up space that beer could be taking.|
|@GauHelldragon: Yeah, I got barrels of firefly ichor with my first caravan. Must have been a small barrel, as there were only 10 units of the stuff (or each unit took hundreds of fireflies to get).|
edited on: 2010-04-23 15:15
Considering the fact that there are actual RL recipes that use blood (like blood sausage for example)I also don´t see it as bug.
At least getting blood as trade objects (I hope that it really can get used in meals...if not, I would rather consider this to be a bug ;) )
As for getting butterfly ichor...
well, considering the fact that we get other strange things like, for example, firefly brains and are able to turn them into meals, I assume it seems to be rather normal in the world of dwarf fortress
|Likely because blood is considered an animal extract such as venom and milk.|
|As a workaround for emptying the barrels; forbid the blood, then have the barrel be taken to the trade depot. A dwarf should then move the barrel and leave the blood in the stockpile. I accidentally wasted a stockpile full of gnomeblight this way.|
|I'm reasonably certain, from hearing Toady speak about it in at least one podcast, that this is UNINTENDED behaviour, a result of these items being classified as foodstuffs. Alas, there is no [trade-exempt] tag to prevent these things from appearing in strange quantities (like the barrels full of insect brains), so the materials are collected, just like everything else.|
There are pages of different blood available on embark.
Not bad as such, but could take some adjustments. Like making it uncommon for traders (without request) and a few applications in cooking/brewing.
Also, could vampires drink animal blood when it's available in barrels?
edited on: 2015-03-09 14:25
Heh I still get "liquid" from my caravans even in 0.40
Reminder sent to: Terff
The bringing 'liquid' bug wasn't fixed until 40.06 - are you using a more current version?
|This stopped for blood without attached syndromes in 43.something, but has started up again in 44.01.|
I don't recall blood barrels ever being blocked. Here's a trading-test save I created in v0.43.05; the dwarven caravan is offering barrels of hamster blood and wombat blood, among others:
Still present in 47.03, the only jobs that handle extracts from animals particularly are animal dissectors which as Quietust remarked in 0001044 c24799 the [USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS] not using robust enough checks.
Dwarves have precedent to trade cave spider venom because they can extract it using the 'Extract from a dead animal' job in conjunction with a vial from trapped living cave spiders (the job's name is incorrect in this regard, perhaps referring to vermin small remains). The job also processes & butchers creepy crawlers, as to redeem seemingly any usable material or asset from the living vermin item without any kind of specified target.
|2010-04-07 16:57||mrdudeguy||New Issue|
|2010-04-07 17:01||Lemunde||Note Added: 0001890|
|2010-04-07 19:41||ercdvs||Note Added: 0001918|
|2010-04-07 22:45||G-Flex||Note Added: 0001954|
|2010-04-08 00:48||derigo||Note Added: 0001974|
|2010-04-08 01:36||GauHelldragon||Note Added: 0001980|
|2010-04-08 01:40||timferius||Note Added: 0001981|
|2010-04-08 06:51||anti-paragon||Note Added: 0002013|
|2010-04-08 07:40||ercdvs||Note Added: 0002025|
|2010-04-08 08:19||NoctisVampire||Note Added: 0002034|
|2010-04-08 09:57||mrdudeguy||Note Added: 0002063|
|2010-04-08 09:57||mrdudeguy||Tag Attached: trade|
|2010-04-08 09:58||mrdudeguy||Tag Attached: blood|
|2010-04-08 09:59||mrdudeguy||Tag Attached: item|
|2010-04-08 10:02||Draco18s||Note Added: 0002069|
|2010-04-09 17:17||kaefermelder||Tag Attached: Not a bug|
|2010-04-23 14:53||Footkerchief||Relationship added||has duplicate 0001468|
|2010-04-23 15:14||Proteus||Note Added: 0004787|
|2010-04-23 15:15||Proteus||Note Edited: 0004787||View Revisions|
|2010-04-25 16:24||Myxine||Note Added: 0005054|
|2010-05-04 05:10||maanahr||Note Added: 0006085|
|2012-02-19 15:27||Footkerchief||Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?|
|2013-03-08 04:23||Dwarfu||Tag Detached: Not a bug|
|2013-04-18 17:41||TerryDactyl||Note Added: 0023946|
|2014-07-18 08:47||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0003088|
|2014-07-18 08:47||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0001741|
|2014-07-18 08:47||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0003398|
|2014-07-18 08:48||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0001044|
|2014-07-18 08:48||Footkerchief||Summary||Traders bring Blood => Merchants bring barrels of blood and tears|
|2014-11-14 07:13||TBeholder||Note Added: 0030983|
|2015-03-09 14:25||Terff||Note Added: 0032355|
|2015-03-09 14:25||Terff||Note Edited: 0032355||View Revisions|
|2015-03-09 16:23||Dwarfu||Issue Monitored: Terff|
|2015-03-09 16:23||Dwarfu||Note Added: 0032360|
|2017-11-24 18:08||Dwarfu||Relationship added||has duplicate 0010351|
|2017-11-26 13:05||Button||Note Added: 0037033|
|2017-11-28 21:51||Loci||Note Added: 0037091|
|2018-04-16 18:38||Huntthetroll||Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll|
|2020-02-18 13:53||FantasticDorf||Note Added: 0040105|
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