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0000094Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcarepublic2010-04-01 22:112022-10-10 05:42
Reporterrss 
Assigned ToToady One 
PriorityhighSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusconfirmedResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000094: Injured dwarves not recovered, ignored by doctors, and/or don't get food/water
DescriptionA dwarf has no visible injuries outside, but is unconscious almost permanently and the "Diagnosis requested" shows up on the dwarf's profile. The chief medical dwarf routinely ignores him, even doing no job instead of at least bringing the dwarf to a bed.
Tagshealthcare, save game
Attached Files

- Relationships
related to 0002684resolvedToady One Wounded dwarf outside hospital will not rest properly, and therefore not recieve aid. Followed by death. 
related to 0002448new Dwarves Give Water to non-wounded 
related to 0000681resolvedToady One Legless/footless dwarfs are ignored by healthcare 
parent of 0008374resolvedToady One Dwarves injured in hospital zone are not recovered and will not rest 
has duplicate 0002453resolvedFootkerchief A dwarf with cut hand cannot move and dies of hunger 
has duplicate 0004518resolvedFootkerchief Dwarf falling unconscious before reaching bed is ignored by healthcare 
has duplicate 0001167resolvedFootkerchief Not Recovering Wounded 
has duplicate 0004830resolvedFootkerchief Dwarves in Hospital die of Dehyrdration / Starvation 
has duplicate 0001410resolvedFootkerchief Injured Soldiers Never Recover 
has duplicate 0005928resolvedFootkerchief Injured dwarf not taken to hospital, stuck in place with "no job" 
has duplicate 0009765resolvedDwarfu Dwarf Attacked by undead, not being brought to hospital 
related to 0001582acknowledgedToady One Injured dwarves in bed receive no treatment after diagnosis 
related to 0004772new Dwarf gets sick while handling animal, other dwarfs won't help him to a bed because he is still handling the animal 
related to 0000703confirmedDwarfu Chained mother "cancels seek infant" until death from dehydration, and other imprisonment issues 
related to 0004850new Injured Dwarves who are unable to stand are not recovered unless unconscious 
related to 0005544new Hospitalized Dwarves die of starvation / dehydration 
related to 0001842new Apparently babies aren't cared for when mothers are in hospital 
related to 0002905resolvedToady One Dwarves that recieve beatings do not heal 
related to 0005628resolvedToady One Dwarved won't care for a severely wounded dwarf for a long time 
related to 0001260resolvedFootkerchief Salt water given to a resting dwarf 
related to 0007503new Medical dwarves don't prioritize stanching blood flow 
related to 0008100assignedFootkerchief Doctor gets assigned to treat patients outside doctor's burrow, patient rests forever 
related to 0008214resolvedToady One Children injured due to 0007574 don't get taken to the hospital 
related to 0008025resolvedToady One Dwarf stuck in permanent unconsciousness/ sleep 

-  Notes
(0005453)
Egregius (reporter)
2010-04-27 19:49

Try setting a hospital zone 'over' the dwarf in question. I've seen a wounded dwarf being brought to the hospital inside with beds only after I declared him to be in a hospital zone.
(0008467)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-06-15 01:20

The feeding/watering part of this should be fixed for 0.31.07, but the general ignoring of the dwarf will require a save or more information.
(0008662)
yeesh (reporter)
2010-06-18 22:36
edited on: 2010-06-20 11:14

I believe I have a save illustrating the problem as originally reported. The dwarf took part in a fight against a forgotten beast and was somehow knocked unconscious although he has no other injuries reported. The other dwarfs left him where he lay. Eventually I tried to wake him up by collapsing him down a level but to no avail. He does not wake up and he is completely ignored.

Here is the save, pardon my bloated fortress: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2540 [^]

EDIT: I'd like to report that with 31.08, the other dwarfs did indeed begin feeding and watering the unconscious dwarf... so that he could survive long enough to go insane from depression. He'd been ecstatic when he was knocked unconscious, but eventually the strain of lying there having no injuries and not recovering proved too much for him. He was never moved to a hospital, and his action remained stuck on Go To Indiv Combat Drill. RIP.

(0011515)
ra2phoenix (reporter)
2010-08-05 00:34
edited on: 2010-08-07 10:32

Had three dwarves injured in combat. They cancelled rest when first injured because enemies were nearby. Now they're lying there on the ground unable to move (faint, missing legs, etc.) and they're being ignored. Two have diagnostic requests, the third has apparently accepted his fate. I did have a problem at the same time with the chief medical dwarf getting reassigned to a non-doctor. After setting it back, the chief medical dwarf has all other labors turned off and is showing No Job. I'll get a save uploaded showing this tomorrow.

Edit: After reloading my save, they eventually went and hauled them to a hospital.. but one dwarf never did get a diagnostic due to him failing to rest when first injured.

(0012439)
kuketski (reporter)
2010-09-05 23:37
edited on: 2010-09-07 22:48

Version - 31.12.

Had 3 dwarwes injured. Two - due to training in "danger room" barracks, and one - beaten by law enforcer.

All three NEVER move an inch from the very moment they was injured. Later, two of them died because of infection and the last one was lying in "danger room" for two or tree years, while constantly being attacked by "training spear", but - thanks to his clothes - all attacks glanced away. For now, he have two INHIBITED(bright yellow) wounds and no one wants to drag him to hospital or at least diagnose him on sight.

I suppose he has some kind of brain trauma, but i cant even see that, because he still need diagnosis.

Oh! And he recieves water and food regularly and actually "was happy recently" about that. :-D

EDIT: here is the save http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3079 [^]

(0014502)
Naia (reporter)
2010-12-10 10:32

Sorry for necroing this, but think I've found a workaround.

31.18.

Problem as already mentioned. Dwarf whit minor injuries, who keeps flashing the "passed out" and never gets taken to the hospital for treatment. ( he did get food/water )

Tried the usual trix to try and wake him up, but no luck.

However, building a cagetrap on his tile generated : Urist cancels Rest: Caged.
I then constructed the cage at my hospital, and as soon as he was free, he was properly put to bed and treated
(0017369)
kwieland (reporter)
2011-04-14 13:03

Wow. that is a clever workaround Naia.
(0021123)
Footkerchief (manager)
2012-03-05 08:51
edited on: 2012-03-05 08:51

0.31.25 saves from 0004830:
Thirsty patients: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4836 [^]
Dehydrated patients: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4837 [^]

(0024856)
qoph (reporter)
2014-07-01 01:03

A workaround that worked for me was to set an alert with the injured dwarves outside the required burrow. This somehow allowed them to crawl their way into the hospital on their own.
(0027368)
Aisher (reporter)
2014-07-23 18:02

similar bugfix. based in Naia workaround http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9129 [^]
(0029890)
Loci (manager)
2014-09-02 07:38

v0.40.10: After a minecart riding mishap, an unconscious woodcutter was left outside the fortress walls. No "Recover Wounded" job was generated, and the hospital staff eventually end up treating the dwarf where he lies.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9595 [^]
(0029943)
Toady One (administrator)
2014-09-04 14:59

From 0008214:

"The issue with this particular rest job was that the dwarf went unconscious before arriving at their destination, and another part of the code caused the ko to never end because there was a rest job, regardless of whether or not the dwarf got to their rest goal. It could also happen with injured dwarves with sleep jobs, though those at least would still terminate when drowsiness was gone. This is probably the source of a good number of the rest errors, and I've tried to patch broken jobs out of old saves (worked on this one, anyway).

Dwarves that are dropped while being carried can bug out in a similar way, and I haven't dealt with that yet."

I'll still be testing some saves from here to see what other issues there are. Rest jobs broken in the way described above prevent bed-carries, as well as feeding.
(0030405)
Loci (manager)
2014-09-27 12:03

v0.40.13: Another minecart riding mishap. An unconscious herbalist was left where he landed; no "Recover Wounded" job was generated. After a couple days of rest the herbalist recovers sufficiently to hobble himself to the hospital.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9803 [^]
(0030748)
Orkel (reporter)
2014-10-26 19:37
edited on: 2014-10-26 20:40

Two of my dwarves are on traction benches getting diagnosed over and over again but never done anything further than that on. They both have hundreds of "diagnosed by X" in their medical page but their bones are not being "tractioned".

Edit: After a hundreds (or thousands?) of diagnoses the injury seems to have healed itself and they're both back up and running.

(0030751)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-10-27 04:20

"Two of my dwarves are on traction benches getting diagnosed over and over again but never done anything further than that on. "

Sounds like my medical history. :/
(0030752)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-10-27 09:04

Reminder sent to: Orkel, ptb_ptb

Saves needed!
(0030762)
Orkel (reporter)
2014-10-27 18:48

Here's the save - you can see 1-2 dwarves in the hospital getting constantly diagnosed.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9985 [^]
(0030804)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-10-30 12:24

@Footkerchief

I was referring to my RL medical history. Sorry for the confusion.
(0030859)
Calathar (reporter)
2014-11-03 17:32

I can confirm Orkel's problem for 40.14 with constant diagnoses, but I should note that it has nothing to do with this bug report, since injured dwarves are seen by doctors, get food and water, and are recovered. Maybe the bug was introduced when Toady added the traction bench check to release dwarves from traction? In this case, dwarves are still injured while in traction.

My saved game demonstrating the problem:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10021 [^]
(0032460)
Loci (manager)
2015-03-29 18:39
edited on: 2015-03-29 19:51

v0.40.24:

A dwarf was injured unintentionally testing a pit trap. After a wall was deconstructed, the dwarf just sat there performing "rest"; no recover wounded job was generated. Eventually, the dwarf recovers sufficiently to walk to the hospital for treatment.

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=10719 [^]

(0035365)
Toady One (administrator)
2016-06-07 13:09

I tested the 0.40.24 save and the dwarf went immediately to the hospital, so it's possible some of the issues have been fixed in the upcoming 0.43.04 release (where the code analyzer found an issue with the rest/medical code). I'm not sure there aren't other issues though, so we should probably just keep an eye on this one after the next release.
(0037473)
Orkel (reporter)
2018-01-02 05:57
edited on: 2018-01-02 05:59

This save was primarily for the stuttering bug ticket, but there are two wounded dwarves not getting attention so I'll post it here too. One is a child in the hospital stuck with "Play" job (he was stuck in a traction bench before, getting spam-evaluated by doctors yet receiving no treatment, before I deconstructed the TB, then he just got stuck with "Play"). Another is a baby being held by one of the soldiers, with several arrow wounds.

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13370 [^]

(0037758)
Orkel (reporter)
2018-02-05 11:15

4 dwarves were "Rest"ing in the hospital, not getting any attention from doctors. Some were "Requires diagnosis", some were already diagnosed but the treating was not continued by the doctors.

So I unbuilt the beds from under them, and then rebuilt the beds, now they're just there with "No Job" and still not getting diagnosed/healed.

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13489 [^]
(0041339)
Alex321 (reporter)
2022-10-10 05:42

Just happened in my playthrough (0.47.05, PyLNP): Clean Patient job got cancelled. I wanted another doctor to do that job, so I temporary military-mobilized the dwarf that it was assigned to. I didn't go as planned though: now the injured dwarf is lying in the hospital, its health status is showing "needs cleaning", but the old cleaning job has disappeared and new one isn't getting generated.

Logically, I would expect the game to re-create the job ASAP for something as time-critical as healthcare. If it doesn't reliably re-create medical jobs if th old one's gone, then it could be responsible for many problems with injuries getting ignored. After all, in a large fort with a lot going on, there could be a number of reasons why a specific dwarf may drop a job, due to some user action, burrows/accessibility, "interrupted by ..." or whatever.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-01 22:11 rss New Issue
2010-04-02 06:41 Todestool Tag Attached: healthcare
2010-04-07 07:32 Justice Issue Monitored: Justice
2010-04-21 12:23 Footkerchief Relationship added child of 0000351
2010-04-27 19:49 Egregius Note Added: 0005453
2010-04-28 14:01 Footkerchief Category General => Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcare
2010-06-11 16:26 paladin_of_light Tag Attached: unconcious
2010-06-11 16:26 paladin_of_light Tag Detached: unconcious
2010-06-15 01:19 Toady One Relationship replaced related to 0000351
2010-06-15 01:20 Toady One Note Added: 0008467
2010-06-15 01:20 Toady One Assigned To => Toady One
2010-06-15 01:20 Toady One Status new => acknowledged
2010-06-15 01:27 Toady One Relationship added related to 0001582
2010-06-18 22:18 yeesh Issue Monitored: yeesh
2010-06-18 22:19 yeesh Issue End Monitor: yeesh
2010-06-18 22:36 yeesh Note Added: 0008662
2010-06-18 22:40 yeesh Note Edited: 0008662 View Revisions
2010-06-18 22:41 yeesh Tag Attached: save game
2010-06-20 11:14 yeesh Note Edited: 0008662 View Revisions
2010-06-23 22:32 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0002453
2010-06-30 17:28 Khym Chanur Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-07-16 11:20 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0002684
2010-08-05 00:32 ra2phoenix Issue Monitored: ra2phoenix
2010-08-05 00:34 ra2phoenix Note Added: 0011515
2010-08-07 10:32 ra2phoenix Note Edited: 0011515 View Revisions
2010-08-10 10:03 theqmann Issue Monitored: theqmann
2010-09-05 23:37 kuketski Note Added: 0012439
2010-09-05 23:39 kuketski Note Edited: 0012439 View Revisions
2010-09-07 22:48 kuketski Note Edited: 0012439 View Revisions
2010-12-10 10:32 Naia Note Added: 0014502
2011-03-04 23:10 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0002448
2011-03-04 23:11 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0000681
2011-03-04 23:11 Footkerchief Summary Dwarves ignore dwarf outside in coma => Dwarves won't bring unconscious injured dwarf to a bed
2011-03-04 23:11 Footkerchief Sticky Issue No => Yes
2011-04-14 07:43 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0004518
2011-04-14 12:59 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0001167
2011-04-14 12:59 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2011-04-14 12:59 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: Cakeonslaught
2011-04-14 12:59 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: Creidieki
2011-04-14 12:59 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: kwieland
2011-04-14 12:59 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: brainspank
2011-04-14 12:59 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0000770
2011-04-14 13:03 kwieland Note Added: 0017369
2011-07-28 10:00 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0004772
2012-03-05 08:39 Footkerchief Relationship replaced has duplicate 0002453
2012-03-05 08:40 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0000703
2012-03-05 08:49 Footkerchief Summary Dwarves won't bring unconscious injured dwarf to a bed => Injured dwarves don't receive medical attention or food/water
2012-03-05 08:50 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0004830
2012-03-05 08:51 Footkerchief Note Added: 0021123
2012-03-05 08:51 Footkerchief Note Edited: 0021123 View Revisions
2012-03-05 08:52 Footkerchief Summary Injured dwarves don't receive medical attention or food/water => Injured dwarves not recovered, ignored by doctors, and/or don't get food/water
2012-03-05 08:53 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0004850
2012-03-05 08:55 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0005544
2012-03-05 08:56 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0001842
2012-03-05 09:04 Footkerchief Relationship deleted related to 0000351
2012-03-05 09:04 Footkerchief Relationship replaced related to 0002684
2012-03-05 09:07 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0002905
2012-03-05 09:08 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0003403
2012-03-05 09:08 Footkerchief Relationship deleted related to 0003403
2012-03-13 11:49 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0005628
2012-03-18 23:51 kento Issue Monitored: kento
2012-04-11 11:59 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0001410
2012-06-11 13:49 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0005928
2014-01-27 10:50 Footkerchief Relationship deleted related to 0000770
2014-01-27 11:35 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0003212
2014-01-27 11:35 Footkerchief Relationship deleted related to 0003212
2014-01-27 13:06 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0001260
2014-07-01 01:03 qoph Note Added: 0024856
2014-07-21 21:49 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0007503
2014-07-23 18:02 Aisher Note Added: 0027368
2014-08-09 11:03 Dwarfu Status acknowledged => confirmed
2014-08-21 06:55 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0008100
2014-09-01 14:12 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0008214
2014-09-02 07:38 Loci Note Added: 0029890
2014-09-02 13:00 4maskwolf Issue Monitored: 4maskwolf
2014-09-04 14:59 Toady One Note Added: 0029943
2014-09-13 09:49 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0008025
2014-09-27 12:03 Loci Note Added: 0030405
2014-10-26 19:37 Orkel Note Added: 0030748
2014-10-26 20:40 Orkel Note Edited: 0030748 View Revisions
2014-10-27 04:20 ptb_ptb Note Added: 0030751
2014-10-27 09:04 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: Orkel
2014-10-27 09:04 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: ptb_ptb
2014-10-27 09:04 Footkerchief Note Added: 0030752
2014-10-27 18:48 Orkel Note Added: 0030762
2014-10-30 12:24 ptb_ptb Note Added: 0030804
2014-11-03 17:32 Calathar Note Added: 0030859
2014-12-01 03:19 ptb_ptb Issue End Monitor: ptb_ptb
2015-03-29 18:39 Loci Note Added: 0032460
2015-03-29 19:25 Afghani84 Issue Monitored: Afghani84
2015-03-29 19:51 Loci Note Edited: 0032460 View Revisions
2016-05-17 15:34 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0009765
2016-06-07 13:09 Toady One Note Added: 0035365
2016-06-07 14:22 Dwarfu Issue Monitored: Dwarfu
2017-05-03 09:03 Loci Relationship added parent of 0008374
2018-01-02 05:57 Orkel Note Added: 0037473
2018-01-02 05:59 Orkel Note Edited: 0037473 View Revisions
2018-01-02 05:59 Orkel Note Edited: 0037473 View Revisions
2018-01-03 09:57 Huntthetroll Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll
2018-02-05 11:15 Orkel Note Added: 0037758
2022-10-10 05:42 Alex321 Note Added: 0041339
2022-10-10 05:45 Alex321 Issue Monitored: Alex321


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