0002389: Arsenal Dwarf needs indefinite article- Adventure Mode

(0008748)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-06-20 01:04

"I am president." "I am the president." Both of these are acceptable, so why not for an arsenal dwarf?

(0008758)
Cryten (reporter)
2010-06-20 03:22

I am president dosn't really sound right like the person dosnt have the ability to make a full sentence. So I guess thats asthetics and "proper" english. So I support the change even if it is very minor.

(0008773)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-06-20 09:17
edited on: 2010-06-20 09:19

I am president dosn't really sound right like the person dosnt have the ability to make a full sentence. So I guess thats asthetics and "proper" english.

"I am president" is completely proper and at worst sounds very slightly archaic. Although it's not used as often for the main clause of a sentence, it's frequently used in subordinate clauses, e.g. "while I am president" and "until I am president."

(0009538)
Cespinarve (reporter)
2010-07-02 13:44

I was under the impression that arsenal dwarf was along the lines of a quartermaster- in charge of the equipment. A president can use the Royal We- he exists as an embodiment of a head of state, like a king. A quartermaster is just a job, and hardly the most prestigious. Thus "I am the arsenal dwarf" reflects his position better.

(0009542)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-02 14:38

Omission of the article doesn't require that the office be prestigious. That's just the context you're used to hearing it in, because archaic forms are more often used in formal settings.

(0009771)
Cespinarve (reporter)
2010-07-07 21:23

The question is now moot- Toady has removed the position of arsenal dwarf.

(0009782)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-08 06:24

Good point.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-06-19 20:29	Cespinarve	New Issue
2010-06-20 01:04	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0008748
2010-06-20 03:22	Cryten	Note Added: 0008758
2010-06-20 08:38	Logical2u	Relationship added	child of 0000229
2010-06-20 09:17	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0008773
2010-06-20 09:18	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0008773	View Revisions
2010-06-20 09:19	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0008773	View Revisions
2010-07-02 13:44	Cespinarve	Note Added: 0009538
2010-07-02 14:38	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0009542
2010-07-07 21:23	Cespinarve	Note Added: 0009771
2010-07-08 06:24	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0009782
2010-07-08 06:24	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2010-07-08 06:24	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => no change required
2010-07-08 06:24	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2011-03-10 09:49	AO	Tag Attached: typo
2011-03-10 10:44	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: AO

Notes
(0008748) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-06-20 01:04	"I am president." "I am the president." Both of these are acceptable, so why not for an arsenal dwarf?

(0008758) Cryten (reporter) 2010-06-20 03:22	I am president dosn't really sound right like the person dosnt have the ability to make a full sentence. So I guess thats asthetics and "proper" english. So I support the change even if it is very minor.

(0008773) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-06-20 09:17 edited on: 2010-06-20 09:19	I am president dosn't really sound right like the person dosnt have the ability to make a full sentence. So I guess thats asthetics and "proper" english. "I am president" is completely proper and at worst sounds very slightly archaic. Although it's not used as often for the main clause of a sentence, it's frequently used in subordinate clauses, e.g. "while I am president" and "until I am president."

(0009538) Cespinarve (reporter) 2010-07-02 13:44	I was under the impression that arsenal dwarf was along the lines of a quartermaster- in charge of the equipment. A president can use the Royal We- he exists as an embodiment of a head of state, like a king. A quartermaster is just a job, and hardly the most prestigious. Thus "I am the arsenal dwarf" reflects his position better.

(0009542) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-02 14:38	Omission of the article doesn't require that the office be prestigious. That's just the context you're used to hearing it in, because archaic forms are more often used in formal settings.

(0009771) Cespinarve (reporter) 2010-07-07 21:23	The question is now moot- Toady has removed the position of arsenal dwarf.

(0009782) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-08 06:24	Good point.